I've been suggesting that they reverse the signs at this intersection for a long time, because it would slow down the speeding traffic down St. Paul. A stop sign for St. Paul at Jackson would be better, I think. I live on Jackson, so I go through the intersection almost every day. The cars cut it so short, it's dangerous for a bike going northbound past the path. Also in winter when Jackson is icy, it's difficult for cars to actually stop at the stop sign and then take off without slipping downhill.
I could be wrong, but I thought there was a stop sign for the westbound bike path at Jackson (not for eastbound, though). Good luck getting TE to put up a sign with that wording . . . . On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Paul T. O'Leary <[email protected]> wrote: > North- and south-bound Jackson have stop signs, so a yield on St. Paul > wouldn't make > sense. Besides, people wouldn't associate a yield/stop on St. Paul with the > hazard at the > path crossing. People would just stop or slow there, and then still hammer > it down > Jackson as they cross the path. > > But yield signs on Jackson at the path would help, as would an > advisory/warning sign on > west-bound St. Paul saying something like "Left Turn. YIELD to Path Traffic > After Turn". > There are no stop signs on the path at Jackson, so as of now, it's an > uncontrolled > intersection, so yield signs on Jackson would make sense. > > From: Martin Lund <[email protected]> > > > A stop sign is probably overkill. > > > > The intersection is Jackson Street & St. Paul Avenue, just north of the > bike > > path. West bound traffic on St. Paul, while not heavy, tends to hit that > > left hand turn onto Jackson Street hard and fast. The problem is that > this > > traffic then immediately crosses the painted crosswalk linking the bike > > path. > > > > I live one block away and am in and around this intersection a lot on > foot > > and on bicycle. I've seen a lot of close-calls, particularly involving > > pedestrians. On the other hand, perhaps the frequency with which I visit > the > > intersection only makes it seem worse than others. In any case, the other > > day I took the offending left hard turn for the first time on my > motorcycle > > and realized that if I didn't already know there was a bike path crossing > > right around the corner, I would probably just blow on through like > everyone > > else! We get traffic cutting through from Milwaukee Street, as well as > folks > > using Ohio to St. Paul to Jackson as a turn-around for Atwood Avenue -- I > > don't imagine these folks know to expect the bike path cross walk. > > > > There is a yellow bicycle sign for traffic traveling South on Jackson, > but > > due to the specific location of the sign, traffic turning left off of St. > > Paul misses this sign entirely. > > > > Perhaps an additional bicycle sign or a yield might be a good move. > > Additionally, a sign on the bike path for east and west bound cyclists > and > > pedestrians might be beneficial. > > > > Any feedback would be great. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Martin > > --------------------- > Paul T. O'Leary > Desktop Insurgent > Madison WI USA > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > -- "The system filters out the thoughtful and replaces them with the faithful." --quoted in John Dower, *Cultures of War*
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