I know I'm a little late to this party, but I've taken a couple of photos of this intersection, and include links below.
On Jul 8, 2011, Eric White asked: >I have a question about this bike lane. If I'm heading N on Segoe and I want >to turn R on Mineral Point, can I wait in the bike lane and turn right on red >there? On Jul 11, 2011, Charles Strawser answered: > If the bike lane is intended for through (not turning) cyclists, then it's > arguable perfectly reasonable and legal for a car to sit in the bike lane > while waiting to turn right on red. After all, a bicyclist who wanted to go > straight would have to wait for the green light anyway. That's how I would handle this intersection. See photo here: <http://www.flickr.com/photos/mababo/5955325860/> The car in the photo is going straight northbound, but had it been turning right, I would have stopped behind it. Had I been driving up to this intersection and seen a cyclist waiting to go straight, I would have stopped behind the cyclist and waited for the green (though that is probably not how a majority of drivers would handle that situation.) > On the other hand, that would not be the ideal street design. If the lane is > intended for through cyclists, and there are a lot of (Motor Vehicle) right > turns there, then the lane should be striped to the left of a right turn lane > (that could be used by both MVs and cyclists, of course). > > But there may not be room at this location for everything, which means a > decision is made to better allocate space on the street to some movements > over others. Typically allocation is made according to the majority of > existing movements, but of course this tends to enforce the negative feedback > loop of - no bicyclists (or pedestrians) here, so no (more or better) > facilities needed for them here. It doesn't look like there is room here for everything, and I suspect that the majority of motor vehicle movements are left turns onto Mineral Point or straight through to the school on the other side of the intersection. I would guess that very little bike traffic turns onto Mineral Point, which has no dedicated bicycle facilities at this location. The bike lane picks up on the other side of the intersection and then gains a buffer: <http://www.flickr.com/photos/mababo/5954767283/> The only one set up like that in the city, as far as I am aware. Michael Lemberger _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org
