I read the piece by Paul Fanlund and thought he handled it nicely, 
thoughtfully sharing Robbie Webber's viewpoint.


________________________________
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry D. Nelson
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:12 AM
To: 'Dave Schlabowske'; 'Robbie Webber'
Cc: 'milbtw'; 'Bikies'
Subject: Re: [Bikies] Is speed enforcement a "speed trap?'

Dave, I certainly agree with your call for civility.  However, I have been 
unable to determine a period in the history of our country when civility was 
prevalent.  It certainly was not during the Revolution or in the formative days 
of the new federation.  President Jackson's pummeling critics with a cane 
wasn't very civil.

It was definitely not civil during the Civil War.  (The Lincoln Museum in 
Springfield devotes an entire section to the vilification of the President.)  I 
don't remember the 1960s as being particularly civil.

Perhaps the period during the Eisenhower presidency was as civil as it is going 
to be.  But, that period is regarded as repressive by some.  (Besides, the cars 
were unsafe and the bikes were built like landing craft, i.e. the Schwinn 
"Roadmaster".)

Regardless, the best way to counter uncivil behavior is to be civil.

Larry

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Schlabowske
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:27 AM
To: Robbie Webber
Cc: milbtw; Bikies
Subject: Re: [Bikies] Is speed enforcement a "speed trap?'

Robbie, what bothers me about this is the suggestion that the newspaper prefers 
to use your piece as troll bait to increase page views so the blog is more 
valuable to advertisers.  That suggests to me that the story is only newsworthy 
if it brings out all the haters.
I find the comment forums for online versions of newpapers along with call-in 
comments to talk radio to be a detrimental to our democracy.  The anonymity in 
these so-called debates, have become seed beds for anger and hatred that have 
spilled over into the rest of our interpersonal society.
Civility is becoming a thing of the past and people have come to feel that it 
is acceptable to  walk up to someone they don't know and rage at them.

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Robbie Webber 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I wrote a letter to the editor of the Cap Times, and he asked if he could post 
it as a blog, to draw comments from readers. I'm quite sure I will be pilloried 
in the Madison.com comments section, so I thought maybe I'd also let a more 
friendly audience know as well.
http://bit.ly/py0OCo

It has always bugged me that the papers continue to label traffic enforcement 
as a "speed trap," as if it's all sneaky and hidden. Anyway, you can read the 
rest of it at the link above.


Robbie Webber




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