Tim's points sum up my perspective exactly.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:37 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> I share Tim's concern about a bike boulevard being used to argue against
> bike lanes on Sherman. The bike boulevard section doesn't start until Aberg,
> and there are no Sherman-parallel streets that run continuously from Fordem
> or Tenney to where Ruskin begins at Aberg. (For nitpickers, there is one
> block of Ruskin south of Aberg, but the shopping center comes between it and
> the rest of Ruskin, so it's not a feasible bike route.)
>
> Bikes will still need access to Sherman, even those who aren't traveling to
> destinations on Sherman, because there is no good alternative route from
> Fordem to Northport. (In case anyone thinks hugging the lakeshore in Maple
> Bluff is a good alternative route, try biking it in winter while out of
> shape.)
>
> Ruskin is a great route now for the reasons I previously stated, but there
> are other roads on the northside where bike improvements would have a bigger
> impact - like the bike-laneless section of Aberg. If the goal is to let
> people know it's there, it should be called a bike route, not a bike
> boulevard.
>
> Kathryn Kingsbury
>
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> *From:* tim wong <[email protected]>
> *To:* India Viola <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* [email protected]; bikies <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Mon, August 15, 2011 3:41:17 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Bikies] TONIGHT! Ruskin Street Bicycle Boulevard Public
> Meeting
>
> The problems I have with using Ruskin St. as a "bike boulevard" are these:
>
> 1) Ruskin is hilly, especially compared with where bikes should be--on
> Sherman Ave.
> 2) If the city invests in making Ruskin a "bike boulevard," it will add
> ammunition to the argument that Sherman Ave. should continue to be a narrow,
> four-lane speedway.  As we have been arguing for almost 20 years, Sherman
> Ave. should be made a TWTLT (acronym probably wrong, pronounced
> "twittle")--one through lane in each direction, with left turn lanes at
> intersections.  Certain elements of the neighborhood have been arguing that
> Sherman Ave. should be only for cars and, also, dangerous for pedestrians
> trying to cross at non-stop light intersections.  This is obsolete thinking.
> 3) The city does not know what a bicycle boulevard is.  It involves more
> than putting up signs calling it one, while not doing anything that makes
> bike boulevards in other cities the real thing.
>
> tim
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:26 AM, India Viola <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I didn't know where Ruskin St. was.  Here's a Google Map of Ruskin 
>> St.<http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Ruskin+Street,+Madison,+WI&hl=en&ll=43.120251,-89.359918&spn=0.015036,0.038581&sll=43.094132,-89.337791&sspn=0.007521,0.01929&z=15>
>> What is it like to bike on now (i.e. what do we gain by designating it
>> bike boulevard)?
>> I'm sincerely asking because I don't know.
>>
>> -India
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:21 AM, AmandaWhite <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> *
>>> *
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *City of Madison Public Information Meeting *
>>>
>>> *  Designation of Ruskin Street as a Bicycle Boulevard*
>>>
>>> *TONIGHT - Monday, August 15
>>> *
>>>
>>> Lakeview Branch Library
>>>
>>> 2845 N. Sherman Ave.
>>>
>>> 6:00pm*
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The City of Madison is hosting a Public Information Meeting to gather
>>> community feedback on designating Ruskin Street a Bicycle Boulevard. Attend
>>> this meeting to learn more about bicycle boulevards and what designating
>>> Ruskin as a bicycle boulevard will mean for local bicyclists and the
>>> neighborhood. City staff will be available to answer questions.
>>>
>>>
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>>> Currently in Madison, we have 3 bicycle boulevards: sections of East Mifflin
>>> Street, Kendall Avenue, and East Wilson Street. A Bicycle Boulevard is
>>> typically a quiet, residential street that prioritizes bicyclists, is
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>>>
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