If I thought that people were knowingly driving the wrong way, I wouldn't suggest better signs. That this area seems to be one where people are making the same mistake on a regular basis suggests to me that the area could be improved.
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Robbie Webber <[email protected]>wrote: > I think we have to chalk this up to the small percentage of any group of > people that will be clueless. > > I don't think most of these drivers are intending to do something illegal, > and I actually don't think that any additional signs, barriers, or road > paint would keep it from happening and still not be a danger to bicyclists. > (Pylons or other barriers would not be a safe addition, in my opinion.) My > guess is that city crews need a "mountable" median to be able to service > this lane (snow plows, emergencies, etc.) > > Anyone who has spent any time on University Ave has seen people turn the > wrong way. It is alternatively amusing and frightening, depending on what > else/who else is on the road. > > I was once waiting for a westbound bus in the middle of a huge blizzard - > the kind when you wonder why anyone, regardless of mode, would voluntarily > be out in it. We were all marveling at the few drivers creeping along in > the snow and hoping they would get home safely. When suddenly a car comes > northbound on Park St and MAKES A RIGHT TURN. Yes, this poor guy is now > going eastbound on the main part of University, and we are all yelling and > waving, but he can't see us. > > He finally figured it out as a platoon of drivers - all trying to figure > out if they could stop in time - come down the street the other way. > Fortunately, no collisions, and the average speed was probably about 15 mph. > > > Robbie Webber > Transportation Policy Analyst > State Smart Transportation Initiative > www.ssti.us > 608-263-9984 (o) > 608-225-0002 (c) > [email protected] > > > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Martin Lund <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I work on the south side of University Avenue between Lake & Park Streets >> and have a relatively clear view of the street. Perhaps twice a month, >> sometimes more, sometimes less, I witness cars traveling *eastbound* * >> inside* the median-separated bike lane between Park & Lake. >> >> Less frequently, I have seen cars idling in the same bike lane, only >> facing west, in front of the Lucky Building. I've twice confronted the >> drivers of idling, west-facing cars, each with out of state plates, and >> both of them seemed genuinely shocked that they were in a bike lane and >> promptly relocated. One woman, from NY, said she thought it was a >> median-lane for buses, taxis, and the like. >> >> As far as I know, there have been no collisions caused by either type of >> situation, but I wonder if it's only a matter of time before this >> happens. I'm not sure what the best solution is -- improved signs, >> strategically placed pylons, or something else. >> >> As an aside, it is also not entirely uncommon to see eastbound traffic in >> the auto lanes on University between Park and Lake. Again, no collisions >> that I am aware of. >> >> Not sure who best to refer this to, and thought I'd start with the List. >> >> -Martin >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> >> >
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