If I thought that people were knowingly driving the wrong way, I wouldn't
suggest better signs. That this area seems to be one where people are
making the same mistake on a regular basis suggests to me that the area
could be improved.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Robbie Webber <[email protected]>wrote:

> I think we have to chalk this up to the small percentage of any group of
> people that will be clueless.
>
> I don't think most of these drivers are intending to do something illegal,
> and I actually don't think that any additional signs, barriers, or road
> paint would keep it from happening and still not be a danger to bicyclists.
> (Pylons or other barriers would not be a safe addition, in my opinion.) My
> guess is that city crews need a "mountable" median to be able to service
> this lane (snow plows, emergencies, etc.)
>
> Anyone who has spent any time on University Ave has seen people turn the
> wrong way. It is alternatively amusing and frightening, depending on what
> else/who else is on the road.
>
> I was once waiting for a westbound bus in the middle of a huge blizzard -
> the kind when you wonder why anyone, regardless of mode, would voluntarily
> be out in it. We were all marveling at the few drivers creeping along in
> the snow and hoping they would get home safely. When suddenly a car comes
> northbound on Park St and MAKES A RIGHT TURN. Yes, this poor guy is now
> going eastbound on the main part of University, and we are all yelling and
> waving, but he can't see us.
>
> He finally figured it out as a platoon of drivers - all trying to figure
> out if they could stop in time - come down the street the other way.
> Fortunately, no collisions, and the average speed was probably about 15 mph.
>
>
> Robbie Webber
> Transportation Policy Analyst
> State Smart Transportation Initiative
> www.ssti.us
> 608-263-9984 (o)
> 608-225-0002 (c)
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>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Martin Lund <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> I work on the south side of University Avenue between Lake & Park Streets
>> and have a relatively clear view of the street. Perhaps twice a month,
>> sometimes more, sometimes less, I witness cars traveling *eastbound* *
>> inside* the median-separated bike lane between Park & Lake.
>>
>> Less frequently, I have seen cars idling in the same bike lane, only
>> facing west, in front of the Lucky Building. I've twice confronted the
>> drivers of idling, west-facing cars, each with out of state plates, and
>> both of them seemed genuinely shocked that they were in a bike lane and
>> promptly relocated. One woman, from NY, said she thought it was a
>> median-lane for buses, taxis, and the like.
>>
>> As far as I know, there have been no collisions caused by either type of
>> situation, but I wonder if it's only a matter of time before this
>> happens. I'm not sure what the best solution is -- improved signs,
>> strategically placed pylons, or something else.
>>
>> As an aside, it is also not entirely uncommon to see eastbound traffic in
>> the auto lanes on University between Park and Lake. Again, no collisions
>> that I am aware of.
>>
>> Not sure who best to refer this to, and thought I'd start with the List.
>>
>> -Martin
>>
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