I didn't see the original post about "whipping" our former Mayor but one way to
advocate for growth and development more in line with public transit,
pedestrian commutes due to being near higher density areas and cycling friendly
policies and lifestyles would be to strongly urge Madison to do what it can to
"mature" our downtown and grow jobs in the center city that is so well served
by cycling/pedstrian/bus routes and is so close to major employers, service
providers and entertainment as well...East Wash Corridor just lies there very
fallow...with so much real potential if handled well..and there are signs that
some things are "stirring" (this economic timing stinks...as well as what's
happening up the hill..."wississippi" is not the best future brand for this
State) but we've got to get jobs and more coming back into the
center....entertainment wise...figuring out how to bet the cultural arts
district successful enough to support Overture, new State
Vets Museum potential and I'd go back to my old standbye..a downtown Cineplex
of some size and variety....all of these things, especially the job growth,
would help drive the kind of sustainable easier to get too development that
would strengthen the core....the longggggggggggggggg running downtown plan
process really needs a shot, maybe 2 or 50, in the arm to get to an ACTION
plan...it would be so nice to ride the 2.75 miles downtown for dinner and a
movie! or just take a nice walk to it...and for the tens of thousands that are
even closer!
Research Park 2? well East Wash looks good....
Expanded Madison College? same....
Energy Research center? More corporate activity? Interesting housing...maybe
even some "LEED" developments for housing? Check...
The Former Mayor actually had great tenants of these in his first
administration in his plans...that's why he had my support then...
the recipe for success is here...but we gotta get to the get...other
municipalities have handed us our lunch the last 8-10 years and taken the
opportunities we should have seen happen here.
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From: tim wong <[email protected]>
To: Matt Logan <[email protected]>
Cc: Hans Noeldner <[email protected]>; [email protected];
[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Bikies] Whipping boy Dave
One thing citizens of Madison can do is attend one or more of the
"budget sessions" held around the city. There are several places
where you can vent about the road-building priorities of the city and
many other things. There are three more scheduled.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Matt Logan <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think you have to look at this as a great competition. Polls consistently
> show that people say they would like to cut back on driving, but when asked
> to redirect resources from driving to support other modes, there is fierce
> resistance. The fact is we cannot make people change how they decide what
> mode to use. But we can work to change the built and social environment to
> put alternatives into the realm of possibility for a larger number of
> people.
>
>
>
> I agree that Dave-bashing (or anyone else) is not the solution. I have
> always thought that if we can make sure alternatives always get a level
> playing field when solutions to city problems are being considered, we can
> develop enough momentum to make positive change. What I am afraid of right
> now is that we are losing momentum. We are stuck at 2 ride the drives,
> funding looks like it will be flat, and I see no progress on Soglin’s plan
> to re-re-re-re-re-visit the role of bicycling in the city, while at the same
> time Mayor Dave’s platinum report is all but forgotten.
>
>
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hans Noeldner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:16 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: [Bikies] Whipping boy Dave
>
>
>
> It is a lot easier to gripe about ex-Mayor Pave (i.e. Dave Cieslewicz) than
> to get out there and disrupt several hundred thousand Dane County residents
> who believe they have a God-given right to take their own armored personnel
> carrier with themselves everywhere they go. And far easier to blame an
> ex-Mayor for higher fares than to convince several hundred thousand Dane
> County motorists that subsidies for transit should trump subsidies for
> drivers.
>
>
> When I walk and ride my bike in the Village of Oregon and the surrounding
> environs I don’t see ex-Mayor Pave holding a gun to the head of any of the
> motorists whose behaviors, in the aggregate, make our communities unsafe,
> impractical, and unpleasant for people to walk, roll wheelchairs, push baby
> strollers, ride bicycles, and share transit. I don’t see ex-Mayor Pave
> forcing several hundred parents in the Village of Oregon to drive their
> precious children to elementary school.
>
>
>
> I don’t see ANY elected officials forcing us to do all this driving. For
> that matter I don’t see car companies or oil companies or highway builders
> forcing people to drive everywhere. I see a LOT of ordinary people who WANT
> to do it – and right now most don’t give a s**t about the externalities of
> their driving.
>
>
>
> It is going to take a lot more than Dave-bashing to change this. Many, many
> more of us need to confront the status quo – not only in council chambers,
> but at gas stations, grocery stores, in our neighborhoods, on our streets,
> at our school drop-off zones, etc. Hans Noeldner standing all by himself
> protesting gas consumption at the Oregon Kwik Trip ain’t cutting it.
>
>
>
> Courage! Vision!
>
>
>
> Hans Noeldner
>
>
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