There is nothing. no law or nor concrete structure, that can prevent stupidity, 
negligence, careless, or thoughtlessness. Likewise there is nothing to prevent 
intentional willfulness to challenge the laws of physics, momentum and the 
state. But what the vulnerable law will do is provide prosecutors a legal 
statute to bring a fair and just legal restitution for the victims of acts of 
stupidity, carelessness, and criminal disregard to the laws. The act that 
causes 
death or injury has already been committed. It's the prosecution and sentencing 
in the courtroom is what this law defines beyond a nebulous slap on the wrist. 
 



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From: Matt Logan <[email protected]>
To: Bikies <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, December 8, 2012 3:27:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Bikies] Need for vulnerable user law


I agree we need to work toward minimizing the safety risk (both real and 
perceived) to bicyclists in this state.  But I’m not sure a vulnerable user law 
would be the cause (versus an effect) of that improvement.  You can go to 
channel3000 today and read the story about the teen driver who was 
intentionally 
speeding on a hilly road in order to take air, but ended up crashing and 
killing 
one of the passengers.  If you check the comment section, it is obvious there 
is 
a strong resistance to prosecuting the driver criminally.  The refrain is “the 
driver will have to live with this for the rest of their life, isn’t that 
enough 
of a punishment?”  Of course if that was enough of a punishment to change 
behavior the driver would not have been speeding on that hilly rural road in 
the 
first place.
 
I think the conclusion you have to come to about this is that at a fundamental 
level most people do not want to do what it takes to be aware of all the risks 
and avoidance techniques required to drive as safely as we would like them 
to.    We already have a negligence law, but because of the public’s desire to 
not be burdened with thinking comprehensively about safety, a jury is unlikely 
to vote to convict someone of essentially sharing their attitudes about how 
much 
effort is worth putting into safety.   Why is adding a new law going to change 
people’s attitudes about this?  And if those attitudes don’t change, why would 
a 
jury be willing to convict a driver with BFW’s proposed bill?  The attitudes 
have to change first before a law is going to make a difference in behavior!
 
And by the way, the vulnerable user bill that failed in Texas also covered 
motorcyclists, farm equipment drivers, etc.:
 
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/81R/billtext/html/SB00488I.htm
 
 
From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Robbie Webber
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:19 AM
To: Bikies
Subject: [Bikies] Need for vulnerable user law
 
[snip]
until we make criminal driving a more serious offense - and begin to prosecute 
it as such - we will continue to be at more risk than necessary
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