Re: [Bikies] Transportation Improvement Planning Meeting TonightNot to change the subject; I agree with Mary, What is the law for hand signals. I thought it was now legal to use both hands when signaling a turn. Not true?
Ivar From: Mary Mullen Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 7:38 AM To: Darryl Jordan ; Josh Mayer ; rick Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Bikies] Transportation Improvement Planning Meeting Tonight 20 mph is an issue with me. Overtaking pedestrians going 3 mph, some of whom have strollers or dogs, and overtaking bicyclists who are mostly probably going 10-12 mph is an issue. I think motorized traffic should stay on the highways and streets. I can’t imagine wheelchairs going 20 mph, even those with batteries. The ones I’ve seen are generally going at walking speed. Therefore comparing them to electric assist bikes doesn’t make sense. Even though pedals may initiate the electric motor, my understanding is that once the motor is going, pedaling is not required. The bike paths are already congested with walkers and bicyclists, all under their own power. Sometimes during class-changing time in the UW area, a bike can barely get through since the walkers, backs to the traffic take up almost the entire path and aren’t prone to moving over. On 5/7/13 4:47 PM, "Darryl Jordan" <[email protected]> wrote: Electric bicycles, or pedel-elects, are legitimate bicycles as most require the use of pedal effort to initiate the electric motor. Specifically, what is really your problem with them? Speed, weight, or the insult of using anything in addition to muscular power? Personally, I see nothing wrong with motor-assisted bicycles or tricycles as they become more popular among aging baby-boomers and more. As most of the paths in Madison are "multi-use" trails, by what criterion would one restrict use of a electric wheel-chair versus the use of a electric assist bicycle or tricycle? DJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Josh Mayer <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, May 7, 2013 2:08:21 PM Subject: Re: [Bikies] Transportation Improvement Planning Meeting Tonight FWIW, I routinely see an electric bike on the path alongside Blackhawk Country Club. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: rick <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Bikies] Transportation Improvement Planning Meeting Tonight I would agree on the Atwood issues, being a long-time user (25+years) of the Atwood/Monona drive corridor. I'd also like to raise another issue that I've become aware of with in the last month. Apparently there is an effort under way to redifine qualified users of bike paths (and lanes, etc.) so that electric bikes can be used under power. I have MANY issues with this, not the least of which is the door it opens for gas-powered scooters (mopeds) to be used in these venues. Does anyone have any knowledge regarding this ? Rick Cathcart District 11 On 5/7/2013 10:34 AM, Grant Foster wrote: I second the need for bike facilities on Atwood here. I ride the stretch from Walter to Lakeland daily and it is not a safe route. I see a lot of cyclists taking to the sidewalks, creating significant conflicts with walkers, joggers and strollers (especially on the bridges). In the winter, these walks are not plowed in the morning and the bridges are almost neglected completely, with significant rutted ice developing as the winter progresses. I'd be interested to know the traffic counts on this stretch, as car traffic is not congested even during peak commuting times. With the bus stops, cars often have to travel in the inner lanes anyway. It seems like converting the right-hand lanes to bus/bike lanes would be an option. Now that Monona Dr has bike lanes, the value of adding them to Atwood is all the more apparent. The other long-standing issue in this stretch is with pedestrian crossings. I know the parks department understands the need for improved crossings within the two halves of Olbrich Park, and a remedy should be considered as part of any redesign. Grant Foster District 15 On May 7, 2013 8:12 AM, "India Viola" <[email protected]> wrote: Council Presentation on 2014 Transportation Improvement Plan 5p May 7 Council Chambers Room 201 CCB Is anyone from Bikies planning on attending this meeting? Unfortunately I have a conflict and won't be able to make it. Because it's in my neck of the woods, I would like to underscore the importance of putting bike lanes onto both sides of Atwood Avenue between S. Fair Oaks Ave and Cottage Grove Road ASAP. The Cap City Path that goes behind Olbrich is not an equivalent alternative. No matter that the posted speed limit is 30mph, auto traffic consistently goes 35-50mph on this stretch, even as an assertive, confident cyclist who disdains riding on the sidewalk I can't blame the folks I see riding their bikes on the sidewalk on this stretch of Atwood. -India Viola District 6 -- WeAreAllMechanics.com <http://weareallmechanics.com/> [email protected] Stay connected- Follow WAAM on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/We.Are.All.Mechanics> _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org
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