How about this one? Probation for killing four people while
driving drunk under age.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-texas-teen-drunk-driving-probation-affluenza-20131212,0,61486.story#axzz2nIf6lRse
At 01:22 PM 12/12/2013, Robert F. Nagel wrote:
The employer is liable, both as the owner of the vehicle and as
respondeat superior
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respondeat_superior>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respondeat_superior
. Also see:
<http://smallbusiness.findlaw.com/liability-and-insurance/an-employer-s-liability-for-employee-s-acts.html>http://smallbusiness.findlaw.com/liability-and-insurance/an-employer-s-liability-for-employee-s-acts.html
.
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On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Robbie Webber
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
Thoughts and comments....
First, great article. I appreciate you getting the issues out there
and on the table. As to the topic of which you are writing and the
specific case of Steven Rader (a neighbor of mine) .....
Sad. Angry. Outraged. Puzzled. Demoralized. But still not surprised.
Even thought one needs a license to operate a motor vehicle on the
public roads, so the State appears to consider that activity
something that requires special training and care, it appears that
in practical terms, and even in a court of law, driving is not
considered to be an an activity over which a person must exercise
due caution. Failure to follow the law is simply a mistake, not a
criminal activity. And if the case had gone to a jury, every member
of that jury would feel "there but the grace of god go I."
I am so tired of the excuse that even juries and prosecutors use
that "It was a mistake." This guy already had another driving
violation within the last two months! And we all know that getting
fined only means you got caught. He's obviously a terrible driver if
he got caught twice in two months. And he's an idiot. And he should
never be allowed to drive during work hours again.
Besides the vulnerable user law, maybe there should also be enhanced
penalties for people holding commercial driver's licenses, or the
employer should be liable (although that would be a civil suit
rather than a criminal matter.) I would favor a presumption of guilt
and automatic criminal charges where a person driving a commercial
vehicle kills or causes incapacitating injury. Seriously, isn't
responsible driving the least we can expect from people holding a
professional license to drive?!
Robbie
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Tom Held
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all,
I thought you would be interested in the latest on the Steve Rader
case - police have ticketed the tow truck driver. I folded that
news into a look at the vulnerable user law.
<http://theactivepursuit.com/vulnerable-user-case-tow-truck-driver-ticketed-in-crash-that-killed-cyclist-uw-computer-specialist/>http://theactivepursuit.com/vulnerable-user-case-tow-truck-driver-ticketed-in-crash-that-killed-cyclist-uw-computer-specialist/
Please share your thoughts and comments on this topic.
Tom Held
<http://www.theactivepursuit.com>The Active Pursuit
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