(Please excuse my inadvertent early "send" on previous email.) Re. "Abandoned" tags on bikes downtown:
I like the Instagram idea. Any hashtag used can be easily searched and found right away, as soon as it is used with an image (assuming all spellings are correct). I was on mid-State St last Thursday as workers were clearing snow from the unshoveled bike racks/benches zone of nearby sidewalks. They had yet to reach "my" rack. I had to schlep my bike through a lot of snow to lock it to a "buried" rack. That rack had one abandoned bike, which had been tagged. I figured the tags had perhaps been timed to precede this snowclearing process. At the time I was a bit annoyed by the lack of attention to bike racks. Appar those shopping by (winter)bike dont get help/encouragement via snow removal etc. But, per Robbie, you'd better bet they prioritize snow removal for auto parking lots/spaces. Lisa Goodman > On Mar 12, 2014, at 3:28 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send Bikies mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Bikies digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Using Instagram to clear abandoned bikes (Donna Magdalina) > 2. Re: Using Instagram to clear abandoned bikes (Paul T. O'Leary) > 3. Re: Using Instagram to clear abandoned bikes (Robbie Webber) > 4. Re: Using Instagram to clear abandoned bikes (Dave L) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 15:39:53 -0500 > From: Donna Magdalina <[email protected]> > To: Robbie Webber <[email protected]>, bikies > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Using Instagram to clear abandoned bikes > Message-ID: > <CAGuX7CdSVU-usZNM55bzP3jKaLfqKeoarDTNviq3viGH3=g...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Abandoned bikes -- or perhaps sometimes it's resident storage on street > bike racks --have keep the rack in front of Thorpes at Schenks Corners > nearly full the entire last year. You can see after snowstorms most or all > are not used. > > Last week I locked onto the Lorraine Condos' nicely shoveled bike racks, > 100 block of W. Wash and came back three hours later to find an abandoned > bike sticker on my bike. It had snowed that morning, with my bike clearly > added after the snowfall, plus I have a wicker basket that obviously has > not spent the winter outdoors. I don't understand this convoluted pattern > of enforcement when it does finally occur. > > I like the hashtag. > > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Robbie Webber > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Saw this article today, and thought maybe Madison could use a similar >> program. Abandoned bikes that take up perfectly good, usable, needed spots >> in busy areas of the city is one of my pet peeves. >> *The Big City Bike Parking Negative Feedback Loop* >> >> http://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2014/03/big-city-bike-parking-negative-feedback-loop/8596/ >> >> Madison's definition of "abandoned" is not as strict as that in New York. >> I think we all know what an abandoned bike looks like: chain off and >> rusted, bent wheel, leaves/cobwebs/litter in the spokes, stripped, sad, and >> lonely. I think the city actually has a maximum time that a bike can be >> left in the same spot on the public right of way. >> >> What we need for this project is a hashtag - maybe #deadpedalMSN - and >> someone to forward the info to the city. Oh, yeah, and we need the city to >> promptly take action. >> >> Although I think you can probably use the Report a Problem link on the >> city's website - which actually has a choice of "abandoned >> bike<https://www.cityofmadison.com/reportaproblem/abandonedbicycle.cfm>" >> - taking a photo and tagging it just seems much easier. And a shorter >> number of field to fill out. >> >> Robbie Webber >> Transportation Policy Analyst >> State Smart Transportation Initiative >> www.ssti.us >> 608-263-9984 (o) >> [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.danenet.org/private.cgi/bikies-danenet.org/attachments/20140311/b9069b6f/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 18:56:48 -0500 > From: "Paul T. O'Leary" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Using Instagram to clear abandoned bikes > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Not to mention the City won't sell your information for marketing > purposes, or use your communication as a way to spy on you. And it's > already up and running and paid for. > >> On 2014/03/11 12:18, Robbie Webber wrote: >> >> Although I think you can probably use the Report a Problem link on the >> city's website - which actually has a choice of "abandoned bike >> <https://www.cityofmadison.com/reportaproblem/abandonedbicycle.cfm>" - >> taking a photo and tagging it just seems much easier. And a shorter >> number of field to fill out. > > -- > Paul T. O'Leary > Chronic Nuisance > Madison, WI USA > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.danenet.org/private.cgi/bikies-danenet.org/attachments/20140311/da2f296f/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 19:20:58 -0500 > From: Robbie Webber <[email protected]> > To: Donna Magdalina <[email protected]> > Cc: bikies <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Using Instagram to clear abandoned bikes > Message-ID: > <CAOT7DYzx6uGeMs=xthrfkkh4cayewqrp9nyla_fyuog6wdc...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have laughed when I've seen "abandoned" tags on bikes like yours - > clearly parked within the last couple of hours. Don't worry; they aren't > going to come along and take your bike within another few hours if the tag > appears, so I just tear it off and go on my way. > > (The UW, on the other hand actually has numbers on the tags and has them > geo-coded. If they remove someone's bike, there is a tag number and > location to trace it and allow the owner to more easily recover the bike. > It also means that the owner can call Transportation Services with the > number and say, "No, that bike isn't abandoned," and Transportation > Services can check it off their list. I think that's what Chuck Strawser > told me. If I got anything seriously wrong, he can correct me.) > > Back to the city process.... I think someone has been assigned to tag ALL > bikes in a certain area on one afternoon, regardless of whether the bike is > abandoned or not. Then the same person, or maybe someone else, comes back a > few days or week later to collect all the bikes that still have tags. > That's the only explanation I can think of for this strange tagging > behavior. > > But at least the city is trying to do something about abandoned bikes. > Bikes used to sit at racks, clearly abandoned, until they were removed > twice a year: Once for Maxwell Street Days, and one for Halloween. > > I used to complain that by allowing bikes to take up valuable rack space, > the city and the business districts were saying, "We don't think bike > parking is all that important, or surely not as important as car parking." > Can you imagine the uproar if 10 percent of the car parking spaces on any > block were occupied by abandoned cars? > > Robbie Webber > Transportation Policy Analyst > State Smart Transportation Initiative > www.ssti.us > 608-263-9984 (o) > 608-225-0002 (c) > [email protected] > > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Donna Magdalina <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Abandoned bikes -- or perhaps sometimes it's resident storage on street >> bike racks --have keep the rack in front of Thorpes at Schenks Corners >> nearly full the entire last year. You can see after snowstorms most or all >> are not used. >> >> Last week I locked onto the Lorraine Condos' nicely shoveled bike racks, >> 100 block of W. Wash and came back three hours later to find an abandoned >> bike sticker on my bike. It had snowed that morning, with my bike clearly >> added after the snowfall, plus I have a wicker basket that obviously has >> not spent the winter outdoors. I don't understand this convoluted pattern >> of enforcement when it does finally occur. >> >> I like the hashtag. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Robbie Webber >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Saw this article today, and thought maybe Madison could use a similar >>> program. Abandoned bikes that take up perfectly good, usable, needed spots >>> in busy areas of the city is one of my pet peeves. >>> *The Big City Bike Parking Negative Feedback Loop* >>> >>> http://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2014/03/big-city-bike-parking-negative-feedback-loop/8596/ >>> >>> Madison's definition of "abandoned" is not as strict as that in New York. >>> I think we all know what an abandoned bike looks like: chain off and >>> rusted, bent wheel, leaves/cobwebs/litter in the spokes, stripped, sad, and >>> lonely. I think the city actually has a maximum time that a bike can be >>> left in the same spot on the public right of way. >>> >>> What we need for this project is a hashtag - maybe #deadpedalMSN - and >>> someone to forward the info to the city. Oh, yeah, and we need the city to >>> promptly take action. >>> >>> Although I think you can probably use the Report a Problem link on the >>> city's website - which actually has a choice of "abandoned >>> bike<https://www.cityofmadison.com/reportaproblem/abandonedbicycle.cfm>" >>> - taking a photo and tagging it just seems much easier. And a shorter >>> number of field to fill out. >>> >>> Robbie Webber >>> Transportation Policy Analyst >>> State Smart Transportation Initiative >>> www.ssti.us >>> 608-263-9984 (o) >>> [email protected] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bikies mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.danenet.org/private.cgi/bikies-danenet.org/attachments/20140311/b07b57b2/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:18:42 -0500 > From: Dave L <[email protected]> > To: Robbie Webber <[email protected]> > Cc: Bikies <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Using Instagram to clear abandoned bikes > Message-ID: > <cae7wsarebz-mznqao8tkreueejv03dogwb+c9ayizqg+3xe...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > That's a great idea. I've seen a couple of examples out there from other > cities of mobile apps that allow users to report a pothole or other hazard. > These reports are then consolidated in a central database. I bet it would > increase reporting considerably over the City's current form entry method. > Perhaps a project for the Madison hackers/mashup group... > > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Robbie Webber > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Saw this article today, and thought maybe Madison could use a similar >> program. Abandoned bikes that take up perfectly good, usable, needed spots >> in busy areas of the city is one of my pet peeves. >> *The Big City Bike Parking Negative Feedback Loop* >> >> http://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2014/03/big-city-bike-parking-negative-feedback-loop/8596/ >> >> Madison's definition of "abandoned" is not as strict as that in New York. >> I think we all know what an abandoned bike looks like: chain off and >> rusted, bent wheel, leaves/cobwebs/litter in the spokes, stripped, sad, and >> lonely. I think the city actually has a maximum time that a bike can be >> left in the same spot on the public right of way. >> >> What we need for this project is a hashtag - maybe #deadpedalMSN - and >> someone to forward the info to the city. Oh, yeah, and we need the city to >> promptly take action. >> >> Although I think you can probably use the Report a Problem link on the >> city's website - which actually has a choice of "abandoned >> bike<https://www.cityofmadison.com/reportaproblem/abandonedbicycle.cfm>" >> - taking a photo and tagging it just seems much easier. And a shorter >> number of field to fill out. >> >> Robbie Webber >> Transportation Policy Analyst >> State Smart Transportation Initiative >> www.ssti.us >> 608-263-9984 (o) >> [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.danenet.org/private.cgi/bikies-danenet.org/attachments/20140312/bb9e849b/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > > End of Bikies Digest, Vol 65, Issue 6 > ************************************* _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org
