Also, from an engineering point of view, paved shoulder make the roadbed last longer, because the edge always goes first.
And in urban/congested areas, the more people NOT driving during peak hour, the easier it is to manage traffic. Everyone that walks, bike, carpools, takes the bus, works from home, or drives off-peak is not contributing to the congestion that drives commuters nuts. If enough people chose a different mode, cities and states can avoid costly expansion or even less-expensive traffic management solutions. Larry, you of all people know the cost of everything from traffic signals to lane miles on the Beltline. Anyone that isn't clogging up the roads and parking spaces is actually saving businesses and the taxpayers money. Robbie Webber Transportation Policy Analyst 608-263-9984 (o) 608-225-0002 (c) [email protected] All opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer or any other group with which I am affiliated. On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Michael Rewey <[email protected]> wrote: > Focus on what is in it for them. For example: > > Rural: > > Paved shoulders make it better for farm equipment and wide loads. > Paved shoulders make it better for disabled vehicles. > Paved shoulders take away hazardous shoulder drop-off. > Paved shoulders make it better for Amish wagons. > Paved shoulders make it easier to go around left turning vehicles. > Paved shoulders give more room to avoid an errant on-coming vehicle. > > > Madison folks bear with me on this...: > > Bike lanes are good for temporary snow storage > Bike lanes are good for disabled vehicles > Bike lanes are good for handling water in heavy storms - keeping it out of > car lanes > Bike lanes give cars more room to maneuver > Bike lanes give cars more visibility for pedestrians stepping off curbs. > > Bike paths get bikes off roads. > > All reduce fatalities - a goal of WisDOT. > > Biking is great for tourism in SW Wisconsin - Dodgeville, Mineral Point, > Potosi, Prairie du > Chien, etc. > > > ************************************************ > > > > > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 08:04:44 -0500 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > CC: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Iowa Raises Gas Tax > > > > And, bikes only pay 0% of the roads, right Mike? Give me an argument > that I can use to explain to motorists why they need to subsidize bikes. > > > > Larry D Nelson, P.E. > > > > PO Box 199 > > 4180 Wilson Road > > Dodgeville, WI 53533 > > > > 608 630 6532 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: William Hauda <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 18:44:12 -0500 (EST) > > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Iowa Raises Gas Tax > > > > Agree with Mike. Example: Fitchburg is going to reconstruct a mile or so > > of Lacy Road and this will involve an assessment on property owners who > > use this street to access their homes. At the same time, a better Lacy > > Road will benefit both motorists and cyclists generally. > > > > On 3/6/2015 5:25 PM, Michael Rewey wrote: > > > Motorists at most pay only 20% of local road costs, so why this > picking on bikes? As a > > > property tax payer I am aready subsidising streets. > > > > > > Mike Rewey > > > > > > On 5 Mar 2015 at 7:22, Larry D Nelson wrote: > > > > > > If there was a state registration and registration fees (and wheel > tax) for bikes, our work > > > would be much easier. We would have a common relationship with the > motorists, who may > > > currently regard bicyclists as freeloaders. > > > Right now, all we can agree on is that we as individuals should not > have to pay for anything. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Mar 5, 2015, at 1:22 AM, Jeffrey Schimpff <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > I would much rather pay a higher registration fee for a bike that I > use every day of the > > > year, rather than for a car that sits in the garage most of the time. > A wheel tax is > > > regressive for those of us who do our best to conserve energy and use > public roadways > > > very little (aside from local streets, for which we pay in large part > with property taxes). > > > > > > From: "William Hauda" <[email protected]> > > > To: "Eric Sundquist" <[email protected]>, "Larry Nelson" > > > <[email protected]>, "Matthew Logan" <[email protected]> > > > Cc: [email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 11:12:25 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Iowa Raises Gas Tax > > > &nbs font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, > Lucida Grande, > > > sans-serif;font-size:16px" data-mce-style="color: #000; > background-color: #fff; font- > > > family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida > Grande, sans-serif; > > > font-size: 16px;"> I have heard discussion among County Board members > about > > > establishing a wheel tax and would favor it, based on that discussion > and Larry's info. A > > > $20 tax in Dane County would bring in between $4 million and $5 > million -- not nearly > > > what the RTA was looking at and small potatoes compared to big > projects like Verona > > > Road or Highway M, but definitely a part of the puzzle in growing the > multimodal system > > > in the county. > > > > > > > > > From: Larry Nelson <[email protected]> > > > To: Matthew Logan <[email protected]> > > > Cc: [email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 5:31 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Iowa Raises Gas Tax > > > > > > Planning includes financing needed public transportation improvements. > The following > > > municipalities have adopted the wheel tax. Municipalities Appleton > (city) - $20 > > > beginning February 2015 Arena (township) - $20 beginning April 2015 > Beloit (city) - $10 > > > through January 2015; $20 beginning February 2015 Janesville (city) - > $10 Milwaukee > > > (city) - $20 Counties Chippewa County - $10 beginning January 2015 > > > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Bikies mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > > > > > Michael W. 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