I've followed this thread with mixed feelings of sadness, frustration and 
anger.  Marsha reached out to this group as representing local bicyclists for 
thoughtful assistance on a real problem.  We've all seen it. Bicyclists acting 
like jerks.  They ride oblivious to any semblance of courtesy or respect for 
others.  I'll spare you my stories - I'm sure you have your own.  Fortunately, 
they represent only a small portion of bicyclists, just like the really 
problematic drivers only represent a small portion of motorists.

I don't have an answer for Marsha, and I'm not sure there is one.  I appreciate 
her at least coming to us, most of our opponents aren't going to bother. I do 
believe (and have stated on this forum) that every time there is an incident we 
lose another supporter for initiatives aimed at improving bicycle 
infrastructure, complete streets, vulnerable user, etc. We've apparently lost 
the battle at the State level.  While there is still support at the County and 
City level for bicycling, we lose a bit each time voters are subjected to 
thoughtless behavior from cyclists. We all know there isn't some bicycle czar 
that can enforce decent behavior, but as a group we should expect that those 
adversely impacted are going to seek solutions that limit or even remove 
bicycle access they find problematic. 

Richard Schifreen
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 01:46:06 +0000
From: Patrick Lenon <[email protected]>
To: "Rummel, Marsha" <[email protected]>,
        "[email protected]"      <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Bikies] [MarqNA] Bicycling on the sidewalk in Orton Park
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Ok, then, here's my input:
Let's not apply permanent solutions to temporary problems.
If this were a chronic problem, I'd be all for some kind of structural 
solution.  Barriers, enforcement, whatever.  But just like I have kids who buzz 
down my sidewalk on the way to school, the people (I'm assuming young people) 
who have been buzzing Orton will calm down or grow up.  I don't mean to 
diminish the concerns of the folks who got buzzed, it's inexcusable.  But as 
the philosopher said, this too shall pass.  Although it wouldn't hurt it to 
give an "On your left" as it passes...

-------------Patrick Lenon

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 01:15:52 +0000
CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Bikies] [MarqNA] Bicycling on the sidewalk in Orton Park

?I asked for input. Asking for input should not be seen as rattling cages. I am 
aware of at least two people have been nicked/clipped/hit by bikes, please 
imagine if that was you. I am not proposing changes at this time but seeking 
feedback and ideas.

Thank you.

Marsha


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