Tim is correct, this was discussed extensively during the SCTOD (South
Capitol Transit-Oriented Development) set of meetings.

A redesign was recommended that addresses your point, Brian: it moves
the crossing south and makes it a one-stage crossing across John
Nolen.

But AFAIK it was a design recommendation only, I'm not aware of any
timeline for implementation.

The SCTOD (South Capitol Transit-Oriented Development) set of meetings
also generated design ideas to improve the Broom Street and Machinery
Row intersections.

Feedback on those was that Broom Street is a lower priority - there's
more bike/ped crossing demand at North Shore and at Machinery Row;

The Machinery Row intersection is a complex mess and unlikely to
improve much, short of a major (hundreds of millions $$)
reconstruction.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 5:31 PM, tim wong <[email protected]> wrote:
> This was discussed extensively during the oddly named SCTOD (South Capitol
> Transit-Oriented Development) set of meetings.  I can't remember exactly
> what came out of the North Shore one, but I know the Broom St. crossing,
> while somewhat weird, requiring a diagonal crossing against traffic at West
> Wilson, crossing Nolen in one light.  The final recommendations might be
> online.
>
> This has been discussed by bikies types ever since they reconfigured the
> Broom intersection however many years ago that was.  As usual, bicyclists
> get the shaft while we "green light" (literally) the cars racing to and from
> the suburbs.
>
> The worst problem of the whole lot is keeping that exit next to Machinery
> Row open.  There was discussion about closing that exit and having that
> exit/entrance instead be a sort of extended Hancock St. south of Nolen.
> This makes sense.  I suspect nothing will really move too much on this until
> some bicyclist gets killed by a cellphone-babbling or texting motorist who
> ignores the sign to look both ways (instead of just left) at the bike path.
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 5:14 PM, cloudydays33 <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Esteemed Bikies,
>>
>> Can anyone share the background of why pedestrians and bicyclists have to
>> wait through two traffic-light cycles when crossing John Nolen Drive at N
>> Shore Drive and Williamson Street? (One to cross the right turn lanes, and
>> then another to cross the street itself.)
>>
>> Is there a way that peds/bikes could be better accommodated at these
>> crossings? I imagine this has been discussed here before and I apologize if
>> I am re-hashing an old conversation.
>>
>> Any ideas how this might be improved?
>>
>> Yours in community,
>> Brian Lavendel
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