Respect to John for cheerfully making good. I'm also concerned about cell phone use on moving bicycles, which is not the same as saying that I've never done it. As far as I can tell, it's legal pretty much everywhere save Holland. Let's guess that that's a recognition that a distracted cyclist is less of a hazard to others than a distracted driver, but it's still a boneheaded move with risks to others. (Or if you have a head that's entirely bone, it might be okay - few of us do. However...) Lots of jurisdictions have mandatory helmet laws, which are entirely for the benefit of the riders (and those who pay their medical costs) - why not laws that also protect other road users? Using a cellphone while driving in my jurisdiction costs a first-time offender a total of more than $400US, plus a whole whack of points - why not $50 or $100 for an offending cyclist?
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 4:48 PM Brian Mink via Bikies < bikies@lists.danenet.org> wrote: > John Wagnitz, Thanks for following through with the contribution! Here’s > hoping there are no deaths associated with using e-assist bikes on bikeways > and trails. I see daily use and by and large users tend to be well behaved. > I see more issue with roadies passing at high rates of speed without regard > to the safety of others. Also increasing use of cellphones by cyclists > which is the kind of distraction that is likely to be responsible for more > injuries and deaths than e-assist cyclists. > > Regards, > > Brian Mink > > > Sent with Unibox <http://www.uniboxapp.com/t/sig> > > On Aug 1, 2019, at 5:30 PM, john wagnitz via Bikies < > bikies@lists.danenet.org> wrote: > > Done. A bet I am happy to have lost and a worthwhile cause. > John > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS> > > On Thursday, August 1, 2019, 3:42 PM, Harald Kliems <kli...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi John: > I guess it's August now, and as far as I know there have been no fatal or > serious injury crashes involving e-bikes in Madison. Please mail your $100 > to > > Madison Bikes Inc. > P.O. Box 260244 > Madison, WI 53726-0244 > > Or you can donate online and contribute to our Pinney Library fundraiser > https://www.madisonbikes.org/pinney_library_rack_raising(other Bikies are > welcome to contribute as well!) > > Best, > Harald. > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 7:56 PM Harald Kliems <kli...@gmail.com> wrote: > > John, I'd happily take you up on the bet! $100 that there won't be a > fatality on the bike path in Madison that involves someone on an e-bike > before the end of July 2019. Maybe we can get another bikie as a bookie and > referee. And so that we don't run afoul of any gambling regulations, you > can send the $100 as a donation to Madison Bikes if I win. > Best, > Harald. > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 5:55 PM john wagnitz via Bikies < > bikies@lists.danenet.org> wrote: > > Anybody taking bets on how long before we see a fatality on the bike path > in Madison? I predict before the end of the month. > The offenders are not riding B-Cycles but seem to all be riding “bikes” > with the Copenhagen wheel. I’m pretty sure they are breaking the speed > limit. > The State Legislature gave local governments the power to regulate these > “bikes.” > I hope any local officials reading this post will do something before > somebody gets seriously injured, or killed. > John Wagnitz > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > Bikies@lists.danenet.org > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > > > -- > Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! > Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 > > > > -- > Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! > Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > Bikies@lists.danenet.org > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > Bikies@lists.danenet.org > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > -- S. Rose
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