https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/merge_requests/11314

> On 9 Dec 2025, at 08:06, Philip Prindeville <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> And if you have a patch that encompasses that “long term fix”, I’m happy to 
> test it.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2025, at 11:02 PM, Philip Prindeville via bind-users 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, when you say “the long term fix …” is that a source code fix to Bind? 
>>  Or a configuration fix I need to make to allow this?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 1, 2025, at 2:58 PM, Mark Andrews <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Almost certainly this will be a clash between the existing automatic empty 
>>> zone and
>>> the 'rndc addzone' for 168.192.in-addr.arpa.  The long term fix will be to 
>>> have named
>>> check if the added zone is an automatic empty zone and to allow 'rndc 
>>> addzone’ to
>>> replace it.  In the mean time I would just add 168.192.in-addr.arpa to 
>>> named.conf or add
>>> 'disable-empty-zone 168.192.in-addr.arpa;’
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Dec 2025, at 07:50, Philip Prindeville via bind-users 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> [ Bcc: David and Noah ]
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I’m the maintainer for Kea and ISC-DHCP on OpenWRT.  The scripting to take 
>>>> the UCI configuration files for DHCP and mangle them into Bind zone 
>>>> transfers is here:
>>>> 
>>>> https://github.com/openwrt/packages/blob/master/net/isc-dhcp/files/dhcpd.init#L136-L186
>>>> https://github.com/openwrt/packages/blob/master/net/isc-dhcp/files/dhcpd.init#L274
>>>> https://github.com/openwrt/packages/blob/master/net/isc-dhcp/files/dhcpd.init#L276
>>>> 
>>>> https://github.com/openwrt/packages/blob/master/net/isc-dhcp/files/dhcpd.init#L569
>>>> https://github.com/openwrt/packages/blob/master/net/isc-dhcp/files/dhcpd.init#L575
>>>> 
>>>> https://github.com/openwrt/packages/blob/master/net/isc-dhcp/files/dhcpd.init#L581-L606
>>>> https://github.com/openwrt/packages/blob/master/net/isc-dhcp/files/dhcpd.init#L694
>>>> 
>>>> and the glue in Bind is here:
>>>> 
>>>> https://github.com/openwrt/packages/blob/master/net/bind/files/bind/named.conf#L8-L9
>>>> 
>>>> An example is running locally here, where I have “redfish-solutions.com 
>>>> <http://redfish-solutions.com/>” and “168.192.in-addr.arpa” as the domains 
>>>> I serve.
>>>> 
>>>> ; Generated by /etc/init.d/dhcpd at Mon Dec  1 13:14:10 MST 2025
>>>> 
>>>> ttl 3600
>>>> 
>>>> update add Bedroom.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.5.5
>>>> send
>>>> update add 5.5.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR Bedroom.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add Penthouse.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.5.6
>>>> send
>>>> update add 6.5.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> Penthouse.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add switch1.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.3
>>>> send
>>>> update add 3.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR switch1.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add usw-24-poe.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.4
>>>> send
>>>> update add 4.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> usw-24-poe.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add usw-aggregation.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.5
>>>> send
>>>> update add 5.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> usw-aggregation.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add uap-ac-pro-upstairs.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.6
>>>> send
>>>> update add 6.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> uap-ac-pro-upstairs.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add uap-u6-lr-mainfloor.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.7
>>>> send
>>>> update add 7.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> uap-u6-lr-mainfloor.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add uap-ac-pro-basement.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.8
>>>> send
>>>> update add 8.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> uap-ac-pro-basement.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add bluray3d.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.13
>>>> send
>>>> update add 13.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> bluray3d.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add bluray.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.14
>>>> send
>>>> update add 14.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR bluray.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add macbook3.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.17
>>>> send
>>>> update add 17.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> macbook3.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add charlottes-iwatch.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.18
>>>> send
>>>> update add 18.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> charlottes-iwatch.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add kuiper-macbookpro.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.19
>>>> send
>>>> update add 19.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> kuiper-macbookpro.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add iphone16-philip.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.20
>>>> send
>>>> update add 20.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> iphone16-philip.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add iwatch-emily.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.22
>>>> send
>>>> update add 22.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> iwatch-emily.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add lucs-laptop.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.23
>>>> send
>>>> update add 23.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> lucs-laptop.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add queenies-switch.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.24
>>>> send
>>>> update add 24.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> queenies-switch.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add queenies-switch-lite.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.25
>>>> send
>>>> update add 25.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> queenies-switch-lite.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add sony-ps4.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.26
>>>> send
>>>> update add 26.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> sony-ps4.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add Lucs-iPhone.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.27
>>>> send
>>>> update add 27.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> Lucs-iPhone.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add fire-blue.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.28
>>>> send
>>>> update add 28.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> fire-blue.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add fire-purple.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.29
>>>> send
>>>> update add 29.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> fire-purple.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add lucs-ipad-air.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.30
>>>> send
>>>> update add 30.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> lucs-ipad-air.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add philips-echo.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.31
>>>> send
>>>> update add 31.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> philips-echo.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add penthouse-kitchen-echo.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.32
>>>> send
>>>> update add 32.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> penthouse-kitchen-echo.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add kitchen-echo.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.33
>>>> send
>>>> update add 33.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> kitchen-echo.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add lucs-echo-dot.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.34
>>>> send
>>>> update add 34.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> lucs-echo-dot.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add penthouse-bedroom-echo-dot.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 
>>>> 192.168.6.35
>>>> send
>>>> update add 35.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> penthouse-bedroom-echo-dot.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add iphone16-emily.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.36
>>>> send
>>>> update add 36.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> iphone16-emily.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add emilys-laptop.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.37
>>>> send
>>>> update add 37.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> emilys-laptop.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add redfish5.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.38
>>>> send
>>>> update add 38.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> redfish5.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add macmini2-wifi.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.39
>>>> send
>>>> update add 39.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> macmini2-wifi.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add fire-purple2.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.40
>>>> send
>>>> update add 40.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> fire-purple2.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add LAPTOP-8PUDRPSI.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.41
>>>> send
>>>> update add 41.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> LAPTOP-8PUDRPSI.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add aquent-surface-wired.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.42
>>>> send
>>>> update add 42.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> aquent-surface-wired.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add emilys-ipad-pro.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.43
>>>> send
>>>> update add 43.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> emilys-ipad-pro.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add Emilys-MBP-2.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.44
>>>> send
>>>> update add 44.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> Emilys-MBP-2.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add mycloud2.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.45
>>>> send
>>>> update add 45.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> mycloud2.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add epson3b6659.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.46
>>>> send
>>>> update add 46.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> epson3b6659.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add switch4.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.47
>>>> send
>>>> update add 47.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR switch4.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add un32h5500.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.48
>>>> send
>>>> update add 48.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> un32h5500.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add un55ju6400.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.49
>>>> send
>>>> update add 49.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> un55ju6400.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add un60d8000.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.50
>>>> send
>>>> update add 50.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> un60d8000.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add lg-65c7.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.51
>>>> send
>>>> update add 51.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR lg-65c7.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add lucs-chromebook.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.52
>>>> send
>>>> update add 52.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> lucs-chromebook.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add lucs-switch.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.53
>>>> send
>>>> update add 53.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> lucs-switch.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add helper-shark.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.54
>>>> send
>>>> update add 54.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> helper-shark.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add lucs-iwatch.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.55
>>>> send
>>>> update add 55.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> lucs-iwatch.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add emilys-dock.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.56
>>>> send
>>>> update add 56.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> emilys-dock.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add anker-dongle.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.57
>>>> send
>>>> update add 57.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> anker-dongle.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add ubuntu20-04.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.64
>>>> send
>>>> update add 64.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> ubuntu20-04.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add centos8S.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.65
>>>> send
>>>> update add 65.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> centos8S.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add ghostbsd.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.66
>>>> send
>>>> update add 66.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> ghostbsd.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add slingsgot-g01-SEC504.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.97
>>>> send
>>>> update add 97.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> slingsgot-g01-SEC504.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add mystery-device.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.99
>>>> send
>>>> update add 99.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> mystery-device.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add diningroom-dimmer1.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.208
>>>> send
>>>> update add 208.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> diningroom-dimmer1.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add diningroom-dimmer2.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.209
>>>> send
>>>> update add 209.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> diningroom-dimmer2.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add kitchen-dimmer1.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.210
>>>> send
>>>> update add 210.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> kitchen-dimmer1.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add island-dimmer1.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.211
>>>> send
>>>> update add 211.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> island-dimmer1.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add nook-dimmer1.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.212
>>>> send
>>>> update add 212.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> nook-dimmer1.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add penthouse-kitchen-dimmer1.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 
>>>> 192.168.6.213
>>>> send
>>>> update add 213.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> penthouse-kitchen-dimmer1.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add penthouse-livingroom-dimmer1.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 
>>>> 192.168.6.214
>>>> send
>>>> update add 214.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> penthouse-livingroom-dimmer1.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add penthouse-livingroom-dimmer2.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 
>>>> 192.168.6.215
>>>> send
>>>> update add 215.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> penthouse-livingroom-dimmer2.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add mainfloor-thermostat.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.216
>>>> send
>>>> update add 216.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> mainfloor-thermostat.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add basement-thermostat.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.217
>>>> send
>>>> update add 217.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> basement-thermostat.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add christmas-lights-switch.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 
>>>> 192.168.6.218
>>>> send
>>>> update add 218.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> christmas-lights-switch.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add penthouse-bedroom-thermostat.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 
>>>> 192.168.6.219
>>>> send
>>>> update add 219.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> penthouse-bedroom-thermostat.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add balcony-switch.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.220
>>>> send
>>>> update add 220.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> balcony-switch.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add front-porch-switch.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.221
>>>> send
>>>> update add 221.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> front-porch-switch.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add back-porch-switch.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.222
>>>> send
>>>> update add 222.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> back-porch-switch.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add emilys-refrigerator.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.223
>>>> send
>>>> update add 223.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> emilys-refrigerator.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add garage-mandoor-cam.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.224
>>>> send
>>>> update add 224.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> garage-mandoor-cam.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add patio-cam.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.225
>>>> send
>>>> update add 225.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> patio-cam.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add front-office-cam.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.226
>>>> send
>>>> update add 226.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> front-office-cam.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add driveway-cam.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.227
>>>> send
>>>> update add 227.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> driveway-cam.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add garage-door-left.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.228
>>>> send
>>>> update add 228.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> garage-door-left.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add garage-door-right.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.229
>>>> send
>>>> update add 229.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> garage-door-right.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add garage-cam-right.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.230
>>>> send
>>>> update add 230.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> garage-cam-right.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add garage-cam-left.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.231
>>>> send
>>>> update add 231.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> garage-cam-left.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add nook-thermostat.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.232
>>>> send
>>>> update add 232.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> nook-thermostat.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add smart-plug-1.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.233
>>>> send
>>>> update add 233.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> smart-plug-1.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add smart-plug-2.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.234
>>>> send
>>>> update add 234.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> smart-plug-2.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add spa942-3.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.235
>>>> send
>>>> update add 235.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> spa942-3.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add spa504g-2.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.236
>>>> send
>>>> update add 236.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> spa504g-2.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add spa504g-1.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.237
>>>> send
>>>> update add 237.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> spa504g-1.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add spa942-1.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.238
>>>> send
>>>> update add 238.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> spa942-1.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add spa112.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.239
>>>> send
>>>> update add 239.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR spa112.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add Living-Room.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.240
>>>> send
>>>> update add 240.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> Living-Room.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add Playroom.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.243
>>>> send
>>>> update add 243.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> Playroom.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add Washingmachine.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.244
>>>> send
>>>> update add 244.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> Washingmachine.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add Dryer.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.245
>>>> send
>>>> update add 245.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR Dryer.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add cielo-bedroom.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.246
>>>> send
>>>> update add 246.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> cielo-bedroom.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add cielo-greatroom.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.247
>>>> send
>>>> update add 247.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> cielo-greatroom.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add zanders-tower.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.248
>>>> send
>>>> update add 248.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> zanders-tower.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add zanders-laptop.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.249
>>>> send
>>>> update add 249.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> zanders-laptop.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add zanders-occulus-quest.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.250
>>>> send
>>>> update add 250.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> zanders-occulus-quest.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add zanders-iphone.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.251
>>>> send
>>>> update add 251.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> zanders-iphone.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add mail.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.3
>>>> send
>>>> update add 3.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR mail.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add apc.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.4
>>>> send
>>>> update add 4.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR apc.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add apc2.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.5
>>>> send
>>>> update add 5.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR apc2.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add freenas.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.6
>>>> send
>>>> update add 6.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR freenas.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add mybook.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.8
>>>> send
>>>> update add 8.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR mybook.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add Macmini2.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.9
>>>> send
>>>> update add 9.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR Macmini2.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add iphone12-philip-sb.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.10
>>>> send
>>>> update add 10.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> iphone12-philip-sb.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add macbook3.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.12
>>>> send
>>>> update add 12.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> macbook3.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add kvm1.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.30
>>>> send
>>>> update add 30.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR kvm1.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add kvm1-ipmi.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.31
>>>> send
>>>> update add 31.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> kvm1-ipmi.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add ubuntu24.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.33
>>>> send
>>>> update add 33.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> ubuntu24.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add builder.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.34
>>>> send
>>>> update add 34.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR builder.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add centos7.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.35
>>>> send
>>>> update add 35.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR centos7.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add openwrt-efi.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.36
>>>> send
>>>> update add 36.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> openwrt-efi.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add freedos.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.37
>>>> send
>>>> update add 37.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR freedos.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add win10.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.38
>>>> send
>>>> update add 38.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR win10.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add win7.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.39
>>>> send
>>>> update add 39.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR win7.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add centos6.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.40
>>>> send
>>>> update add 40.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR centos6.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add kvm2.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.62
>>>> send
>>>> update add 62.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR kvm2.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add kvm2-ipmi.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.63
>>>> send
>>>> update add 63.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> kvm2-ipmi.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add rhel10.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.64
>>>> send
>>>> update add 64.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR rhel10.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add ftp.redfish-solutions.com. IN CNAME mail.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add www.redfish-solutions.com. IN CNAME mail.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add pbx.redfish-solutions.com. IN CNAME 
>>>> openwrt.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add ubuntu.redfish-solutions.com. IN CNAME 
>>>> ubuntu24.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add openwrt3.redfish-solutions.com. IN CNAME 
>>>> openwrt.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add ntp.redfish-solutions.com. IN CNAME 
>>>> rhel10.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add openwrt.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.1.1
>>>> send
>>>> update add 1.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR openwrt.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add openwrt.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.5.1
>>>> send
>>>> update add 1.5.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR openwrt.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add openwrt.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.6.1
>>>> send
>>>> update add 1.6.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR openwrt.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add openwrt.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.7.1
>>>> send
>>>> update add 1.7.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR openwrt.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add openwrt.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.1
>>>> send
>>>> update add 1.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR openwrt.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add openwrt-bios2.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.41
>>>> send
>>>> update add 41.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> openwrt-bios2.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add openwrt-bios2.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 192.168.8.199
>>>> send
>>>> update add 199.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR 
>>>> openwrt-bios2.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add tnsr1.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 24.116.100.93
>>>> send
>>>> update add pigpen.redfish-solutions.com. IN A 24.116.100.94
>>>> send
>>>> update add redfish-solutions.com. IN MX 10 mail.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> update add _sip._udp.redfish-solutions.com. IN SRV 0 10 5060 
>>>> pbx.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> send
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> And both zones were primed via these commands:
>>>> 
>>>> rndc addzone redfish-solutions.com. '{
>>>> type primary;
>>>> file "/var/run/dhcp/db.redfish-solutions.com";
>>>> update-policy {
>>>> grant local-ddns zonesub any;
>>>> };
>>>> };'
>>>> 
>>>> rndc addzone 168.192.in-addr.arpa. '{
>>>> type primary;
>>>> file "/var/run/dhcp/db.168.192.in-addr.arpa";
>>>> update-policy {
>>>> grant local-ddns zonesub any;
>>>> };
>>>> };’
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> and then I do “nsupdate -l -v -4 my-update-file-here”
>>>> 
>>>> But I see 125 instances of “update failed: REFUSED” which incidentally is 
>>>> the number of PTR records.
>>>> 
>>>> Lastly, if I query a local host A record that works.  But when I query 
>>>> that address for a PTR record it fails.
>>>> 
>>>> root@OpenWrt:~# dig -t a macmini2.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> 
>>>> ; <<>> DiG 9.20.15 <<>> -t a macmini2.redfish-solutions.com.
>>>> ;; global options: +cmd
>>>> ;; Got answer:
>>>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 23297
>>>> ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
>>>> 
>>>> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
>>>> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
>>>> ; COOKIE: 39141732f1eb310601000000692dfcb178eb0b0ac919a619 (good)
>>>> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>>>> ;macmini2.redfish-solutions.com. IN A
>>>> 
>>>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>>>> Macmini2.redfish-solutions.com. 3600 IN A 192.168.8.9
>>>> 
>>>> ;; Query time: 0 msec
>>>> ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) (UDP)
>>>> ;; WHEN: Mon Dec 01 13:38:09 MST 2025
>>>> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 112
>>>> 
>>>> root@OpenWrt:~# dig -x 192.168.8.9
>>>> 
>>>> ; <<>> DiG 9.20.15 <<>> -x 192.168.8.9
>>>> ;; global options: +cmd
>>>> ;; Got answer:
>>>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 10165
>>>> ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1
>>>> 
>>>> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
>>>> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
>>>> ; COOKIE: bf0f9ed67f6870c501000000692dfcb8991c9d7aa265fcbe (good)
>>>> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>>>> ;9.8.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR
>>>> 
>>>> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
>>>> 168.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA. 86400 IN SOA 168.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA. . 0 28800 7200 
>>>> 604800 86400
>>>> 
>>>> ;; Query time: 1 msec
>>>> ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) (UDP)
>>>> ;; WHEN: Mon Dec 01 13:38:16 MST 2025
>>>> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 136
>>>> 
>>>> root@OpenWrt:~# 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So… why am I authoritative for “redfish-solutions.com 
>>>> <http://redfish-solutions.com/>” but not for “168.192.in-addr.arpa”?
>>>> 
>>>> The top of my dhcpd.conf file looks like:
>>>> 
>>>> authoritative;
>>>> ddns-domainname "redfish-solutions.com.";
>>>> ddns-update-style standard;
>>>> ddns-updates on;
>>>> ignore client-updates;
>>>> 
>>>> update-static-leases on;
>>>> use-host-decl-names on;
>>>> update-conflict-detection off;
>>>> update-optimization off;
>>>> 
>>>> include "/var/run/named/session.key";
>>>> 
>>>> zone redfish-solutions.com. {
>>>> primary 127.0.0.1;
>>>> key local-ddns;
>>>> }
>>>> 
>>>> zone 168.192.in-addr.arpa. {
>>>> primary 127.0.0.1;
>>>> key local-ddns;
>>>> }
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My named.conf file contains:
>>>> 
>>>> options {
>>>> …
>>>> // This is used e.g. by isc-dhcp
>>>> allow-new-zones yes;
>>>> …
>>>> };
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It’s probably something simple but at this point I can’t see the forest 
>>>> for the trees…. Please help me get a patch out the door quickly.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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