It appears to me that the NSEC3 record that is denying the existence of
the DS record for ic.fbi.gov does not have a corresponding RRSIG.
That's based on a fairly cursory glance.

This seems to be the case for all of the NSEC3 records in fbi.gov.

Something's messed up in fbi.gov.

michael

PS: Note below that the SOA record has an RRSIG but the NSEC3 record
doesn't.  Querying for any non-existing record (including for
properly-delegated domains without DS records) in fbi.gov will cause a
validation failure.

schuylkill:~ ms$ dig +cdflag +dnssec ds ic.fbi.gov

; <<>> DiG 9.9.3-P1 <<>> +cdflag +dnssec ds ic.fbi.gov
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 23239
;; flags: qr rd ra cd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ic.fbi.gov.                    IN      DS

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
fbi.gov.                600     IN      SOA     ns1.fbi.gov. dns-admin.fbi.gov. 
2013071601 7200
3600 2592000 43200
fbi.gov.                600     IN      RRSIG   SOA 7 2 600 20131014154120 
20130716154120 32497
fbi.gov. mjg99/NUrrtRn51Ju90FeYyIlF0IITjP/qqk4yWjVsLSDVZIr3uQ9sAn
3e/WrxWeSMteGUMixVDzCBbky5M6/hpO26v2AyKh4IV3I/gIBsy0daS6
MeOMgwhF6EK2HcFoSU24i2Np3GTY05UjpTxlcz1vvoJmBvUOgFbOBJ6d eJM=
7PLEGSLCCDFUBJ53UG8E19T9MH9HIP2B.fbi.gov. 600 IN NSEC3 1 0 10 BBAB
7PPJ5IC2PQQ5HTFGU7I2908P3DRN5FUO MX TXT RRSIG





On 7/17/13 10:05 AM, Sten Carlsen wrote:
> From here i see a fast response using the local server:
> ~~~~~
> $ dig ic.fbi.gov
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.7.6-P1 <<>> ic.fbi.gov
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: _/*NOERROR*/_, id: 2421
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;ic.fbi.gov.            IN    A
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> fbi.gov.        600    IN    SOA    ns1.fbi.gov. dns-admin.fbi.gov.
> 2013071601 7200 3600 2592000 43200
> 
> ;; Query time: 158 msec
> ~~~~~
> No error, but no address.
> 
> Using Google I get a servfail:
> ~~~~~
> $ dig ic.fbi.gov @8.8.8.8
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.7.6-P1 <<>> ic.fbi.gov @8.8.8.8
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: *_/SERVFAIL/_*, id: 11426
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;ic.fbi.gov.            IN    A
> 
> ;; Query time: 102 msec
> ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
> ;; WHEN: Wed Jul 17 18:54:41 2013
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 28
> ~~~~~
> SERVFAIL, so something is unclear.
> 
> 
> On 17/07/13 18:49, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
>> Hello;
>>
>> Running BIND 9.8.2 in RHEL6 (at the latest vendor provided version --
>> bind-9.8.2-0.17.rc1) and trying to troubleshoot an issue resolving
>> ic.fbi.gov that seems to be DNSSEC related.
>>
>> Am fairly certain of this because if I set dnssec-enable and
>> dnssec-validation to no (have them at 'yes' normally), resolution
>> succeeds.
>>
>> If I run a dig @nameserver ic.fbi.gov from a client machine, dig just
>> hangs for a bit then eventually times out.  dig @nameserver fbi.gov
>> works fine....
>>
>> On my BIND server, I see the following in a packet capture:
>>
>>   0.000000 1.1.1.1 -> 156.154.64.48 DNS Standard query A ic.fbi.gov
>>   0.026504 156.154.64.48 -> 1.1.1.1 DNS Standard query response
>>   0.026927 1.1.1.1 -> 156.154.69.48 DNS Standard query DS 
>> 7PLEGSLCCDFUBJ53UG8E19T9MH9HIP2B.fbi.gov
>>   0.042998 156.154.69.48 -> 1.1.1.1 DNS Standard query response, No such name
>>   0.043485 1.1.1.1 -> 156.154.67.48 DNS Standard query DS 
>> 97S2G907NEFOJ79P721E4FEQ9LR3IT1S.fbi.gov
>>   0.048186 156.154.67.48 -> 1.1.1.1 DNS Standard query response, No such name
>>   0.048595 1.1.1.1 -> 156.154.67.48 DNS Standard query DS 
>> 6VTIGSHGMAR334K0PFDJ5ODURDL6CUFP.fbi.gov
>>   0.053765 156.154.67.48 -> 1.1.1.1 DNS Standard query response, No such name
>>  30.043683 1.1.1.1 -> 156.154.65.48 DNS Standard query DS 
>> GON9PTIAV4KLS7E9NMHD9LG02RQD6K3I.fbi.gov
>>  30.061169 156.154.65.48 -> 1.1.1.1 DNS Standard query response, No such name
>>
>> So it seems like the issue is related to the DS records queried not
>> existing, but I've checked a few DNSSEC validation tools out there by
>> plugging ic.fbi.gov in and things appear to check out.  This could be
>> firewall related on my side (we have Checkpoint firewalls), but other
>> DNSSEC queries appear to be working OK.
>>
>> A dig @8.8.8.8 +dnssec ic.fbi.gov works OK as well also making me think
>> the issue is somehow on my side....
>>
>> Am reading up on additional troubleshooting steps for DNSSEC, but still
>> wrapping my head around concepts.
>>
>> Anyone have any tips as to where to start "digging" next based on what
>> I'm seeing above?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ray
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> -- 
> Best regards
> 
> Sten Carlsen
> 
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> 
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