Hi Alexei, On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Alexei Malinin <alexei.mali...@mail.ru> wrote:
> Thank you for the explanation. > > I'm sorry for the misleading Subject of this thread, of course I meant > "delegation NS records". > > No problem. I knew what you meant :) > I understand from your reply that there are no technical means, tools, > etc for verifying delegation NS records in the parent zone if the child > and parent zone are on the same authoritative name server and zone > transfers from that server are prohibited. Is my conclusion correct? > > Yes. If any parent authoritative server is *not* authoritative for the child, then the delegation records can be identified by querying *that server* for a referral. Otherwise, the delegation NS RRset cannot be gleaned from outside queries. There is one slight exception to this. You *can* learn if the parent has *no* delegation records at all by using a DS query. This is a corner case but sometimes happens if the operator has neglected to place the appropriate delegation records in the parent zone and doesn't see the problem because, excepting a DS query (for which the *parent* is authoritative, for DNSSEC purposes), the NS response always come from the child when both parent and child zones are hosted on the same server. If you query a server authoritative for both parent and child for DS, an NXDOMAIN response means that the parent has no delegation records for the child. For example: $ dig +noall +comments +authority @ns1.agtel.net 0-15.66.233.212.in-addr.arpa ds ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 30614 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: 66.233.212.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN SOA ns1.agtel.net. hostmaster.agtel.net. 2014120402 86400 3600 604800 86400 The SOA record indicates that the response indeed came from the parent zone (66.233.212.in-addr.arpa), and the NOERROR response indicates that there are delegation NS records for in the parent zone. Casey
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