I will keep queries on the server as Mark explaned the dig +trace

The versions on the porblem server are:

named -v
BIND 9.9.4-RedHat-9.9.4-61.el7 (Extended Support Version)
[cwieland@ns2 ~]$ dig -v
DiG 9.9.4-RedHat-9.9.4-61.el7

Neither dig +cd  +cdflag  produce anything different

[root@ns2 ~]# dig +cd extranet.aro.army.mil

; <<>> DiG 9.9.4-RedHat-9.9.4-61.el7 <<>> +cd extranet.aro.army.mil
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 60621
;; flags: qr rd ra cd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;extranet.aro.army.mil.         IN      A

;; Query time: 4539 msec
;; SERVER: 128.200.192.202#53(128.200.192.202)
;; WHEN: Thu May 31 18:25:50 PDT 2018
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 50

[root@ns2 ~]# dig +cdflag extranet.aro.army.mil

; <<>> DiG 9.9.4-RedHat-9.9.4-61.el7 <<>> +cdflag extranet.aro.army.mil
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 11925
;; flags: qr rd ra cd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;extranet.aro.army.mil.         IN      A

;; Query time: 4000 msec
;; SERVER: 128.200.192.202#53(128.200.192.202)
;; WHEN: Thu May 31 18:26:17 PDT 2018
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 50




> On May 31, 2018, at 5:31 PM, Peter DeVries <pdevr...@quotient-inc.com> wrote:
> 
> +cd disables DNSSEC validation.  You are running some very old versions of 
> dig in some cases which don't have dnssec support.   The 9.9 version of dig 
> you have on at least one server should work.  
> 
> What version of BIND server are you running on the problematic system?
> 
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:18 PM, cwiel...@uci.edu <cwiel...@uci.edu> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Can you elaborate on +cd? a dig option, I am not finding it as an option.
> 
> thanks
> con
> 
> > On May 31, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Try it with +cd and see if that fixes it.
> > 
> > The DNSSEC stuff for this domain is all borked up -- sufficiently that
> > I felt like I was playing snakes and ladders while looking at:
> > http://dnsviz.net/d/extranet.aro.army.mil/dnssec/
> > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 5:45 PM John Miller <johnm...@brandeis.edu> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi Con,
> >> 
> >> May I suggest running dig +trace extranet.aro.army.mil from your
> >> nameserver?  That'll make the delegation process explicit and help you
> >> troubleshoot a little better.  It could be that one of the three main
> >> army.mil nameservers is unreachable by your ns for some reason
> >> (routing being a likely culprit).
> >> 
> >> John
> >> 
> >> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 5:29 PM, Con Wieland <cwiel...@uci.edu> wrote:
> >>> and here they are but I don’t see anything indicating what the problem 
> >>> might be
> >>> 
> >>> 31-May-2018 13:56:01.150 queries: info: client 128.200.1.20#37203 
> >>> (extranet.aro.army.mil): view internal: query: extranet.aro.army.mil IN A 
> >>> +E (128.200.1.201)
> >>> 31-May-2018 13:56:01.151 resolver: debug 1: createfetch: 
> >>> aro.army.mil.edgekey.dmz.akamai.csd.disa.mil A
> >>> 31-May-2018 13:56:06.153 queries: info: client 128.200.1.20#37203 
> >>> (extranet.aro.army.mil): view internal: query: extranet.aro.army.mil IN A 
> >>> +E (128.200.1.201)
> >>> 31-May-2018 13:56:06.153 resolver: debug 1: createfetch: 
> >>> aro.army.mil.edgekey.dmz.akamai.csd.disa.mil A
> >>> 31-May-2018 13:56:11.158 queries: info: client 128.200.1.20#37203 
> >>> (extranet.aro.army.mil): view internal: query: extranet.aro.army.mil IN A 
> >>> +E (128.200.1.201)
> >>> 31-May-2018 13:56:11.158 query-errors: debug 1: client 128.200.1.20#37203 
> >>> (extranet.aro.army.mil): view internal: query failed (SERVFAIL) for 
> >>> extranet.aro.army.mil/IN/A at query.c:7215
> >>> 31-May-2018 13:56:11.158 resolver: debug 1: createfetch: 
> >>> aro.army.mil.edgekey.dmz.akamai.csd.disa.mil A
> >>> 31-May-2018 13:56:21.168 query-errors: debug 1: client 128.200.1.20#37203 
> >>> (extranet.aro.army.mil): view internal: query failed (SERVFAIL) for 
> >>> extranet.aro.army.mil/IN/A at query.c:7215
> >>> 
> >>>> On May 31, 2018, at 12:51 PM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> 
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Am 31.05.2018 um 21:42 schrieb Con Wieland:
> >>>>> agreed but why would my server not resolve it while others do?
> >>>> 
> >>>> ask the logs of 128.200.1.201
> >>>> 
> >>>> ; <<>> DiG 9.9.4-RedHat-9.9.4-61.el7 <<>> extranet.aro.army.mil
> >>>> ;; global options: +cmd
> >>>> ;; Got answer:
> >>>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 56491
> >>>> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
> >>>> ;; SERVER: 128.200.1.201#53(128.200.1.201)
> >>>> 
> >>>>>> On May 31, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> 
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Am 31.05.2018 um 21:09 schrieb Con Wieland:
> >>>>>>> I have a nameserver that can not resolve extranet.aro.army.mil.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> terrible slow and insane config - fix it
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> https://intodns.com/aro.army.mil
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> ;; Query time: 1175 msec
> >>>>>> ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
> >>>>>> ;; WHEN: Do Mai 31 21:12:26 CEST 2018
> >>>>>> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 247
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> ;; Query time: 1109 msec
> >>>>>> ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
> >>>>>> ;; WHEN: Do Mai 31 21:12:52 CEST 2018
> >>>>>> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 191
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> >>>>>> aro.army.mil.           2022    IN      NS      ns03.army.mil.
> >>>>>> aro.army.mil.           2022    IN      NS      ns02.army.mil.
> >>>>>> aro.army.mil.           2022    IN      NS      ns01.army.mil.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> ;; Query time: 163 msec
> >>>>>> ;; SERVER: 192.82.113.7#53(192.82.113.7)
> >>>>>> ;; WHEN: Do Mai 31 21:15:37 CEST 2018
> >>>>>> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 98
> >>>>>> Warn        SOA REFRESH     WARNING: Your SOA REFRESH interval is: 
> >>>>>> 900. That is
> >>>>>> not so ok
> >>>>>> Warn        SOA RETRY       Your SOA RETRY value is: 90. That is NOT OK
> >>>> 
> >>> 
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> > I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
> > idea in the first place.
> > This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
> > regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
> > of pants.
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