Mark is right. The internet isn’t always on and it isn’t only composed of big tech companies with lots of resources.
The internet consists of lot small systems made by people like you and me and we don’t have infinite resources to keep everything always on. And honestly I find your quote about Cargo Cult very offensive to all those normal people maintaining the rest of the internet infrastructure that isn’t the current <n>-umvirate. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý (He/Him) ond...@isc.org > On 11. 2. 2021, at 14:13, Mark Andrews <ma...@isc.org> wrote: > > Machines still fall over. They take the same amount of time to fix now as > they did 30 years ago. > > You still have to diagnose the fault. You still have to get the replacement > part. You still have to potentially restore from backups. Sometimes you can > switch to a standby machine which makes things faster. > > I’ve seem day long outages in the last 7 days. They still happen. Personally > I was happy the emails queued. > -- > Mark Andrews > >> On 11 Feb 2021, at 23:26, Alessandro Vesely <ves...@tana.it> wrote: >> >> On Wed 10/Feb/2021 22:38:05 +0100 J Doe wrote: >>> Out of curiosity, what servers have you encountered that no longer use the >>> five day cutoff ? >> >> >> I didn't take note, but I read discussions on the topic. Users expect mail >> to be delivered almost instantly. The "warning, still trying" messages >> should come sometime in between. If it comes the next day, by various >> people's experience, it is unacceptably too late. If you reduce that to a >> few hours, the total max queue lifetime cannot remain five days. >> >> At mine, although I keep the default 5d, I cut queue time for specific >> messages, such as complaints or dmarc reports, to ten hours. >> >> Quoting from the web: >> >> Queue lifetimes over a day is just Cargo Cult system administration, and a >> holdover from when the internet was much less "always on". >> >> https://serverfault.com/questions/735269/is-it-a-good-idea-to-reduce-the-give-up-time-for-e-mail-delivery#answer-826351 >> >> >> Best >> Ale >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to >> unsubscribe from this list >> >> ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions. >> Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ for more information. >> >> >> bind-users mailing list >> bind-users@lists.isc.org >> https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users > > _______________________________________________ > Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe > from this list > > ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions. > Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ for more information. > > > bind-users mailing list > bind-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
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