Hi,

On 12-08-2021 09:02, Josef Vybíhal wrote:
Hi, for a second day, I am scratching my head over (automatic) publishing CDS/CDNSKEY records. When I read Matthijs Mekkings KB article at https://kb.isc.org/docs/dnssec-key-and-signing-policy <https://kb.isc.org/docs/dnssec-key-and-signing-policy>, I wanted to try dnssec-policy. Up until now, I successfully was using inline-signing with auto-dnssec.

I configured my dnssec-policy to match the current key setting, but I probably made a mistake and it did not match it, so a new key was generated. No big deal, it's a test domain, rollover is not a problem.

I am sorry, I am afraid you hit a bug: https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/2857

The legacy key metadata has no information about the role of keys. It determines the role from the key flags: 256 means it is a ZSK, and 257 is converted to a KSK. In other words, migrating a CSK won't work.

I am working on a fix so that you will be able to migrate CSKs.

For now I have added a warning to the KB article.


Since my TLD supports CDNSKEY, I want to leverage it. So I removed current DS record from the domain and expected Bind to publish CDS/CDNSKEY (https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/latest/dnssec-guide.html#the-cds-and-cdnskey-resource-records <https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/latest/dnssec-guide.html#the-cds-and-cdnskey-resource-records>). Unfortunately I can not get bind to automatically publish them. No clue why. I kind of expected bind topublish them on PublishCDS: 20210811135045 (Wed Aug 11 15:50:45 2021) automatically.

The metadata is indeed an indication of when certain events are expected to happen. But if BIND determines it is not safe to do so, there may be a delay.

From the output below, it looks like not all zone signatures have been propagated yet:

>    - zone rrsig:     rumoured

The PublishCDS metadata is usually set to the the time that the DNSKEY has been published, plus dnskey-ttl, zone-propagation-delay, and publish-safety. If it is the first key for the zone, the time to propagate the zone signatures is taken into account. But in your case two other keys already existed.

The PublishCDS metadata can be set more accurately if we can detect that none of the other keys have a secure delegation (I think we can).


Best regards,

Matthijs


domain: irmorava.cz <http://irmorava.cz>
version: BIND 9.16.19
OS: CentOS 8 Stream + packages from copr.

named.conf:
dnssec-policy "pepa" {
keys {
csk key-directory lifetime unlimited algorithm 13;
};

// Key timings
dnskey-ttl PT1H;
publish-safety PT1H;
retire-safety PT1H;
purge-keys P1D;

// Signature timings
signatures-refresh P5D;
signatures-validity P14D;
signatures-validity-dnskey P14D;

// Zone parameters
max-zone-ttl PT1H;
zone-propagation-delay PT5M;
parent-ds-ttl PT1H;
parent-propagation-delay PT1H;
nsec3param iterations 1 optout false salt-length 16;
};

zone "irmorava.cz <http://irmorava.cz>" {
type master;
file "master/irmorava.cz.zone";
allow-update { none; };
key-directory "keys/irmorava.cz <http://irmorava.cz>";
dnssec-policy pepa;
notify yes;
allow-transfer { pepa_abc; };
};


dig irmorava.cz <http://irmorava.cz> @127.0.0.1 <http://127.0.0.1> DNSKEY +short +norec 257 3 13 Xsfq5rEgoE+iT+cvq0OZz43MiLiRLeH8SUAEIprn0/J3PNZSYVlCeNuF 5lfNo6uM0TeApujDhmQ1FPNINKxa2Q==


rndc dnssec -status irmorava.cz <http://irmorava.cz>
dnssec-policy: pepa
current time:  Thu Aug 12 08:38:40 2021

key: 22788 (ECDSAP256SHA256), CSK
   published:      yes - since Wed Aug 11 10:20:00 2021
   key signing:    yes - since Wed Aug 11 10:20:00 2021
   zone signing:   yes - since Wed Aug 11 12:25:00 2021

   No rollover scheduled
   - goal:           omnipresent
   - dnskey:         omnipresent
   - ds:             hidden
   - zone rrsig:     rumoured
   - key rrsig:      omnipresent

key: 44055 (ECDSAP256SHA256), CSK
   published:      no
   key signing:    no
   zone signing:   no

   Key has been removed from the zone
   - goal:           hidden
   - dnskey:         hidden
   - ds:             hidden
   - zone rrsig:     unretentive
   - key rrsig:      hidden

key: 35549 (ECDSAP256SHA256), CSK
   published:      no
   key signing:    no
   zone signing:   no

   Key has been removed from the zone
   - goal:           hidden
   - dnskey:         hidden
   - ds:             hidden
   - zone rrsig:     hidden
   - key rrsig:      hidden



/var/named/keys/irmorava.cz/Kirmorava.cz.+013+22788.state <http://irmorava.cz/Kirmorava.cz.+013+22788.state>:
; This is the state of key 22788, for irmorava.cz <http://irmorava.cz>.
Algorithm: 13
Length: 256
Lifetime: 0
Predecessor: 44055
KSK: yes
ZSK: yes
Generated: 20210811082000 (Wed Aug 11 10:20:00 2021)
Published: 20210811082000 (Wed Aug 11 10:20:00 2021)
Active: 20210811102500 (Wed Aug 11 12:25:00 2021)
DSPublish: 20210811131037 (Wed Aug 11 15:10:37 2021)
DSRemoved: 20210811131020 (Wed Aug 11 15:10:20 2021)
*PublishCDS: 20210811135045 (Wed Aug 11 15:50:45 2021)
*DNSKEYChange: 20210811102500 (Wed Aug 11 12:25:00 2021)
ZRRSIGChange: 20210811082000 (Wed Aug 11 10:20:00 2021)
KRRSIGChange: 20210811102500 (Wed Aug 11 12:25:00 2021)
DSChange: 20210811082000 (Wed Aug 11 10:20:00 2021)
DNSKEYState: omnipresent
ZRRSIGState: rumoured
KRRSIGState: omnipresent
DSState: hidden
GoalState: omnipresent


As you can see, I rolled over 2 more keys, but the desired records were not published. Yesterday I tried manually 'dnssec-settime -P sync now Kirmorava.cz.+013+22788.key'. I have waited as I read here https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/bind-users/2020-April/102903.html <https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/bind-users/2020-April/102903.html> but still no luck.

I am sure Iam missing something stupidly simple. Could someone please give me any hint? Or are 'parental-agents' required to be configured? Does not seem right way to me.

Josef

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