In fact... in a domain for whom I have seen these errors, it's arguing
about key id 44526 (it's private file) saying "File not found". But if I
perform an axfr request of the signed zone with pipe grep the key id, no
matches appear... so should not exist rrsigs for that key.... 

These are the contents of a cat of the private file I have renamed to
samename.private-OLD : 

Created: 20211031230338
Publish: 20211110220241
Activate: 20211110220341
Inactive: 20211215230338
Delete: 20211217230338 

Not understandable.... 

Cheers,

El 2022-01-24 14:58, egoitz--- via bind-users escribió:

> Hi Klaus, 
> 
> Thank you so much for your answer but when Bind deletes a key from a zone, if 
> I remember correctly, there should not be any rrsig still active, signed 
> previously by the deleted key. Isn't it?. So I assume in that case, I should 
> be doing it properly but still see these messages. 
> 
> Am I wrong Klaus in some statement?. If a ZSK is deleted (I'm not renewing 
> KSK at the moment) no RRSIG with that key should exist... 
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> El 2022-01-24 13:08, Klaus Darilion escribió:
> 
>> IIRC, Bind needs the key as long as there are signatures in the zone 
>> generated by this key. After key deactivation I waited the RRSIG lifetime 
>> before deleting them. 
>> 
>> regards 
>> 
>> Klaus 
>> 
>> VON: bind-users <bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org> IM AUFTRAG VON egoitz--- 
>> via bind-users
>> GESENDET: Montag, 24. Jänner 2022 13:00
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>> BETREFF: Bind 9, dnssec, and .key .private files physical deletion after the 
>> key id becomes deleted from zone (the key becomes outdated) 
>> 
>> Good morning, 
>> 
>> I have a DNSSEC "bump in wire" server, which uses "inline-signing yes;"  and 
>> "auto-dnssec maintain;" for that reason. 
>> 
>> I do the task of ensuring always are valid keys in the zone with an script 
>> that generates them whenever is needed. All fine until here and all working. 
>> 
>> I have seen, that Bind logs in messages log file sometimes the following 
>> error logs : 
>> 
>> _dns_dnssec_keylistfromrdataset: error reading 
>> /xxx/xxx/xxx/xx-domain/named.aaa/aaa.xx.+008+41919.private: file not found_ 
>> 
>> That "file not found" is due to a rename of ".key" and ".private" files to 
>> ".key-OLD" and ".private-OLD". 
>> 
>> I did the rename, because I have seen that the ZSK key 41919 was set to be 
>> deleted (and obviously always renamed after that deletion date) from the 
>> zone, so I renamed the ".key" and ".private" files to ".key-OLD" and 
>> ".private-OLD". 
>> 
>> I do this rename, because this way my key checking script differentiates, 
>> any needed (in effect) key with the "supposedly" (I say supposedly because I 
>> would have said that Bind should not be using nowadays that non finding 
>> files for nothing!) non needed keys, in order to check that each zone, has 
>> always the needed keys for keeping properly signed by Bind (else it would 
>> generate them). 
>> 
>> As I previously commented, I check with a script the existence of all needed 
>> keys for each domain. Obviuosly, it's not the same checking a couple of ZSK 
>> or just one ZSK and a KSK (per domain), than them plus all outdated keys 
>> that each month become outdated. 
>> 
>> So, how many time should I wait in order to rename that files?. Should I 
>> handle them with another dnssec-______ command instead of renaming?. All 
>> seems to be working well but I see these errors and was wondering if I could 
>> improve the way of handling outdated keys. 
>> 
>> I have been taking a look at the source code of Bind (the tag of version I'm 
>> using), and I have seen that Bind seems not remove any of that key files 
>> when they become outdated. Or does it with some param?. I have not been able 
>> to find it. I have been taking a look too the ARM, but still no luck on 
>> finding the answers I was trying to. 
>> 
>> Any help very appreciated, 
>> 
>> Best regards,
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