Am 15.03.22 um 15:14 schrieb Paul Amaral:
Reindi, thanks for the explanation, I do manually edit the zones because we 
don’t make many DNS changes these days and I usually do named-checkzone but I 
missed that this time, although I did reload that problematic zone with rndc 
reload and saw no errors.  I do have bind restarting once a week via chron. It 
restarted early this morning and of course it failed to come up with no errors 
in the log, making it difficult to troubleshoot ☹

than do yourself a favor and include the named-checkzone in your cron script before restart it hard unattended in the middle of the night (besides a weekly restart without any reason is questionable as you see it's only asking for trouble)

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From: bind-users <bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org> On Behalf Of Reindl Harald
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 10:01 AM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: Chroot Bind failed to start

Am 15.03.22 um 14:37 schrieb Paul Amaral via bind-users:
Neverminded, I was able to traceback my steps and realize a fat
fingered a DNS entry in one of the zones,  added two periods to an
authoritative zone’s DNS record, causing bind to fail to start. The
concerning issue was there was no error on the logs at all, making it
hard to figure out the issue.

that's the terrible packaging

Which leads me to the next question, let’s say I’m authoritative for
regular zone ABC.com and I fat fingered its DNS record,
ns1..something.com. Why would this affect the bind instance from
starting up?

because that's what ExecStartPre is for
if it fails the unit fails

Like I said there was nothing on the logs and I understand that might
be due to the Centos PKG itself. Just wondering why that mistake down
bind down and how I can get more meaningful logs on the logs even
those a prepackaged bind version.

the ExecStartPre happens long before named it even tried to start, so it can't 
log anything - in my opinion the ExecStartPre stuff should go in it's own 
script and just log but not fail the unit with a non-zero exit code

BTW: don't write directly in zone files and if you do so verify it at your own 
- good chances named would refuse to start at it's own with such errors

that's why you *don't hard restart named* just because you changed a zone - a 
reload most likely would have logged the error and just refused to reload the 
zone itself

you need tools for altering zones which would refuse such wrong input before 
they make it into the zone-file
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