My MTU is 1500 bytes, so I don't think that's the problem.

But UDP can fragment via IP...


> On May 13, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Greg Choules 
> <gregchoules+bindus...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Philip.
> Can you run packet captures? I'm running 9.18.0 (close enough?) in Docker and 
> just traced what happens going from "dnssec-validation no;" to 
> "dnssec-validation auto;" It makes a DNSKEY query for "." to one of the 
> roots. The response size was over 900 bytes, so depending on what UDP payload 
> size is advertised there might need to be some retrying over TCP. But you'll 
> only know whether that is happening from a pcap.
> So I'd say.. check EDNS payload size, check what your firewall(s) is/are 
> prepared to let through, check whether DNS/TCP is allowed at all, check if 
> something is doing IP fragmentation (though I wouldn't expect this to come 
> into play with a packet ~1k).
> 
> I hope some of that is useful.
> Cheers, Greg
> 
> On Fri, 13 May 2022 at 17:07, Philip Prindeville 
> <philipp_s...@redfish-solutions.com> wrote:
> After rebooting my OpenWRT router with Bind 9.18.1 yesterday, I started 
> seeing a lot of:
> 
> 
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: validating ./NS: no valid signature 
> found
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: validating net/DS: no valid signature 
> found
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: no valid RRSIG resolving './NS/IN': 
> 192.203.230.10#53
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: no valid RRSIG resolving 'net/DS/IN': 
> 8.8.4.4#53
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: validating com/DS: no valid signature 
> found
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: no valid RRSIG resolving 'com/DS/IN': 
> 8.8.4.4#53
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: validating net/DS: no valid signature 
> found
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: no valid RRSIG resolving 'net/DS/IN': 
> 66.232.64.10#53
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: validating com/DS: no valid signature 
> found
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: no valid RRSIG resolving 'com/DS/IN': 
> 66.232.64.10#53
> 
> 
> In my options, I had:
> 
> dnssec-validation auto;
> 
> But had to turn this off.  It had been working.  This is a production 
> firewall/router.
> 
> What troubleshooting should I do to fix this?
> 
> I had tried:
> 
> rndc managed-keys refresh
> rndc managed-keys sync
> 
> But don't understand why that would have been necessary unless the root keys 
> got updated recently.
> 
> Scrolling to the very top of the logs I see:
> 
> May 12 19:24:04 OpenWrt named[11061]: managed-keys-zone: Unable to fetch 
> DNSKEY set '.': timed out
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Philip
> 
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