I think "From" is needed to specify which package we want to exlude functions.
I think excludeFrom (package, function) seems to be intuitive. thanks, Karim On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Hervé Pagès <hpa...@fredhutch.org> wrote: > On 03/31/2016 12:55 PM, Michael Lawrence wrote: > >> Probably should just stick to exact symbols for now. If there is a >> case where a pattern is actually useful, rather than just an >> obfuscation, we can extend the feature set. >> > > Fair enough. Not really intuitive that excludeImport uses the same > syntax as (but does the opposite of) importFrom though. Maybe having > the name of the directive start with "import" would help e.g. > > importExcept(hash, values) # opposite of importFrom(hash, values) > > Thanks, > H. > > > >> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Zhu, Lihua (Julie) >> <julie....@umassmed.edu> wrote: >> >>> Herve, >>> >>> That is a very interesting idea and works for me! Thanks! >>> >>> importPatternFrom(IRanges, "^values$") >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Julie >>> >>> On 3/31/16 2:51 PM, "Bioc-devel on behalf of Hervé Pagès" >>> <bioc-devel-boun...@r-project.org on behalf of hpa...@fredhutch.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 03/30/2016 08:35 PM, Michael Lawrence wrote: >>>> >>>>> That would work, but R is not going to be happy about redundant >>>>> imports. Interactively, users would balk at symbol qualification. >>>>> >>>>> There are two classes of conflict: >>>>> 1) Same semantics, where a common generic would arbitrate, or one >>>>> package could depend on the other, and >>>>> 2) Different semantics, in which case one of the functions should >>>>> probably be renamed, although that might not be practical or easy to >>>>> agree upon. >>>>> >>>>> When those approaches fail, qualification is the only recourse. >>>>> >>>>> I will think about adding an excludeImport() or importAs(). >>>>> >>>> >>>> What about having something like an importPatternFrom() directive >>>> similar to the exportPattern() directive and have these directives >>>> support some of the grep() toggles like 'ignore.case', 'fixed', >>>> 'invert' etc... ? >>>> >>>> Then Julie could just do: >>>> >>>> importPatternFrom(hash, "^values$", invert=TRUE) >>>> >>>> H. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:20 PM, Robert M. Flight <rfligh...@gmail.com >>>>> > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In the cases of having conflicting names, is it not appropriate then >>>>>> to use >>>>>> the "package::function" form for calling a particular function? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:14 PM Michael Lawrence >>>>>> <lawrence.mich...@gene.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I can't find the hash function in IRanges. Are you sure it has one? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Zhu, Lihua (Julie) >>>>>>> <julie....@umassmed.edu> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michael, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have the same user case as Kasper. Another example is that both >>>>>>>> IRanges >>>>>>>> and hash packages have hash. I need to use the hash from the hash >>>>>>>> package >>>>>>>> instead of the one from IRanges. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Julie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Kasper Daniel Hansen >>>>>>>> <kasperdanielhan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My usecase is when I import() two packages who has a conflict in a >>>>>>>> name. >>>>>>>> For example, both Biobase and matrixStats has both anyMissing and >>>>>>>> rowMedians. I am happy to get all of these two packages, but I need >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> resolve the conflict. Since I want to keep the ones from >>>>>>>> matrixStats I >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> know >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> need to figure out how to import Biobase selectively. Which I can, >>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>> the tools from codetoolsBioC, but I would also be happy with an >>>>>>>> importFromExcept(), which would make my life much easier. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> Kasper >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Michael Lawrence >>>>>>>> <lawrence.mich...@gene.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm curious about which symbols you wouldn't want to import, and >>>>>>>>> why. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Zhu, Lihua (Julie) >>>>>>>>> <julie....@umassmed.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is there a function to import all the exported objects from a >>>>>>>>>> package >>>>>>>>>> except a few named ones in NAMESPACE file? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For example, I would like to import all the functions in S4Vectors >>>>>>>>>> except fold. 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