Nicely ranted!

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On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Sach Jobb wrote:

> This is yet another article written by someone that is, and always has
> been an M$ user and has NO experience using *nix in any sort of a
> practical or production manor at all.
>
> I know this from the 4th paragraph, which looks like it's the first
> supporting argument after Mr. Mullen's thesis.
>
>   <snip>
>       Not that IIS hasn't had its share of issues; it certainly has. But so has
>       everything else out there. Every operating system and every Web server
>       application has had security holes, and they will have them in the
>       future.
>   </snip>
>
> Now if memory serves me right:
>
> Remote root exploits in apache since it's creation: 1 (1.2.x, remember?)
> Remote root exploits in IIS in the last year: 3? 4?
>
> Number of virus targeted at apache since it's creation: 0
> Number of virus targeted at IIS sine it's creation: n
>
>
> > 'One thing is for sure: If you've got an admin that can't secure a
> > Microsoft Web server, then your chances of having them secure a Solaris
> > installation will be slim.'
>
> Okay, no one is going to disagree with this, but if you want a secure
> system there is a lot more to it then just the admin. The key point being
> that if it's open source system, YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. If you are
> using M$, the best you can do is pray for a quick patch that won't break
> things even more than the virus did. It's out of your control.
>
> Remember service pack 2, NT 4.0? It was the hotfix for the horrible errors
> they made in service pack 1, but they broke even more than the fixed.
>
> What's the quote from "Ghost World"? "It was so bad, that it was funny
> again, and then it wasn't."
>
> Cheers,
> sach
>
>
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Lorin wrote:
>
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/22132.html
> >
> > Critical to gartner groups advisory to switch away from M$ products.  I'm
> > not sure i agree with most of his points about how it doesn't matter that
> > much which system you use, but the argument towards the end was
> > interesting:
> >
> > 'One thing is for sure: If you've got an admin that can't secure a
> > Microsoft Web server, then your chances of having them secure a Solaris
> > installation will be slim.'
> >
> > -Lkb
> >
> >
>
>

-- 

Erik Curiel
Sometime Web Engineer/Almost Philosopher

"O, little rose-tree, bloom!
Summer is nearly over.
The dahlias bleed,
The phlox is seed,
Nothing is left of the clover.
And the path of the poppy no one knows---
I would blossom if I were a rose."

   ---Edna St. Vincent Millay
      "Three Songs from 'The Lamp and the Bell'"


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