On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Eric J. Pinnell wrote:

> Sparc's have the whole concept of execution windows, that Alphas don't.
> That makes it a tad bit harder.  However, up until Digital Unix 4.0E there
> wasn't even an executable stack, period.  Java came along and made DEC
> (now Compaq) change all that.  I doubt think NetBSD on the Alpha has had
> that limitation.
>
> But it's still the same deal.  Script kiddies and bots pick on X86.

totally. the windowed stack frames that ultrasparcs use are a big fucking
pain in the ass. they can be compromised, but it takes a lot of work. it
took me two weeks to figure out just exactly how the fuck it actually
worked in practice.

hence the reason i was dissapointed in that talk at defcon 8. i wanted
someone to talk about techniques for defeating stack overflow protection,
and not just how to defeat the windowing.


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christian void - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.morphine.com/void/
gpg key available on request



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