LOL!  Tried to fish out Nufone clients eh?    "Welcome to the VoIP industry"... 
 LOL!  You mean voipers trying to voiper cannibalize fellow voipers?  Why can't 
we work together like a big happy family?  Or is there such word "big happy 
family" ?? :). 

I hope people in this group, are more civilized  :).   I've had the wonderful 
opportunity to work with many folks in the same business, without fear or 
reservation in sharing and aiding with technical information & assistance.    I 
think its the only way for us to succeed in the market where there are MUCH 
bigger players who want to eat little guys running a one or two man operation.

Long Live the Little Guys!

On another note, I received e-mail about service getting disrupted in Michigan 
from other sources as well.  Not just Nufone, and Sixtel is not the only 
company trying to fish out more clients.

A number of my Michigan dudes work at Telesthetic, and they call it 
"Tele-Pathetic".  Apparently, Telesthetic has done exactly the same to other 
companies, not just Nufone.  Attached below is an article posted today sent to 
me via e-mail by one of the dudes!  I think Telesthetic, from the complaints I 
have heard & that are piling up, is ambitiously looking forward to a civil & 
criminal suite pretty soon.  

>From what I hear from many American folks, this action of Telesthetic is an 
>established pattern of behavior.

Please don't shoot me!  I'm merely the messenger!!!


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


  300 phone lines shut down amid confusion

  Web-posted Apr 26, 2006

  Residents say Michtel, AT&T give conflicting stories

  By GARY GOSSELIN
  Press Business Editor 

  PONTIAC - About 300 Michtel Communications home and small business phone
  customers have been without service since Friday night due to what Michtel
  calls a misunderstanding. 
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  But what Cliff Suhr calls it is a run-around that's costing his
  Waterford-based business Big Apple Bagle a big loss of business. 

  "We lost service sometime Friday night after closing, we've had no service
  since Saturday morning, Suhr said. "I don't have any way for customers to
  call or fax lunch orders in, I can't run credit cards - I've lost all this
  credit card business - so I'm high and dry here getting different stories
  from (Michtel) and AT&T." 

  Michtel, a Pontiac-based About 300 Michtel Communi cations home and small
  business phone customers have been without service since Friday night due to
  what Michtel calls a misunderstanding. 

  But what Cliff Suhr reseller of phone service, was going to have its
  wholesale line rates doubled by AT&T, said Michtel general manager Tony
  calls it is a run-around that's costing his Waterford-based Big Apple Bagel
  a big loss of business. 

  "We lost service sometime Friday night after closing, we've had no service
  since Saturday morning," Suhr Yangouyian, so they could not sign the new
  contract. 

  "We never knew that they were going to shut them off, we were trying to come
  to an agreement with (AT&T) for a year," said Yangouyian. "The thing is I
  never knew they were going to shut these people down. If I'd have known that
  I would at least extended (a contract) for a while." 

  The increase comes as a result of a Michigan Public Service Commission
  decision last year to allow AT&T to raise rates. Those rate hikes didn't hit
  Michtel until now because of an existing contract that needed to be renewed
  this month. 

  Yangouyian said his company switched about half of its customers to
  Internet-based service, and said he fi gured AT&T would just switch the
  other half right over to AT&T service when the contract lapsed. They did
  not. 

  "That's not true, it's his responsibility to notify end users or customers
  of any change in service. From our perspective that point is very clear,"
  said Jerry Lawrence, AT&T spokesman. "Many other competing carriers like
  Michtel have explored other agreements with AT&T There are other options,
  and those (businesses) are continuing to do business with consumers today." 

  Suhr says Michtel told him AT&T would switch him over, but has been told by
  AT&T to have Michtel reconnect him. 

  Lawrence said business customers should call (800) 660-5012 and residential
  customers should call (800) 244-4444 and tell them they would like to
  establish service - with the same number. He said getting service should not
  be a problem. 

  "I want to stress we didn't know this was the outcome. We thought AT&T would
  just switch them over," said Yangouyian, noting one of the owners of his
  company in Chesterfield Township was also cut off. "I really feel for these
  people, but I can't turn them on because I didn't turn them off. Why would I
  sit here and go through this all day if I could fix it?" 

  Yangouyian said he was meeting with his attorney Tuesday afternoon but said
  he has no solution for those customers to get their numbers back. Two calls
  to AT&T were not returned. Michtel also owns GigaTrans, a wireless broadband
  company that is also working on Wireless Oakland. The companies are staying
  in business, said Yangouyian, and they will continue to operate. 

  Get in touch 

  Michtel customers who have lost service can call AT&T to have service
  connected with the same number. 

  AT&T Business, (800) 660-5012 

  AT&T Residential, 800-244-4444

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nabeel Jafferali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Toronto Asterisk Business Group'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:03 AM
Subject: RE: [biz] An IVSP going down?


> Sixtel sent out a broadcast email trying to fish disgruntled Nufone
> toll-free customers.
> 
> Welcome to the VoIP industry. Anybody remember LiveVoip (RIP)?

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