Hello Bruce:

I have no problem sharing information at all...  but not necessarily I like to 
spoon feed ;).  Spoon feeding is reserved for paid clients :).

Really... all one needs to know is out in the open and is no secret.  I am not 
only referring to major DID providers in the GTA but others as well -- the list 
beyond the scope of this email.     

The key to what you want to hear/learn more about was already in my previous 
post.  There's only about 29 or 30 CLECs in Canada.   Either they or their 
clients will be happy to help you. 

In the US, there are over 300 CLECs.   Both American and Canadian CLECs today 
have the ability to provide you with both American & Canadian DIDs.

Competition among CLECs is fierce.  They want your business.  You knock, they 
will talk.  The larger CLECs are slow to move than the smaller CLECs.  The 
smaller CLECs is who I prefer to do business with.   

In many cases, I prefer to do business with the companies who purchase the 
services from the CLECs (many of whom are here in the TAUG list -- at least 6 I 
know personally & purchased services from).  It really depends on what the 
client needs.

Cheers!
Reza.

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bruce Nik 
  To: Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast ; TAUG - Biz 
  Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:22 AM
  Subject: RE: [biz] Looking for a provider to port my toronto number


  Hell Reza,

  It's great that you are sharing this info with us. My guess was based on 
single PRI costs assumption and also based on the major DID providers in GAT 
and so on. Anyhow, I'd like to hear more about any other providers that are out 
there and can actually do it cheaper.

  Cheers,
  Bruce






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    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
    Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:53:48 -0400
    Subject: Re: [biz] Looking for a provider to port my toronto number


    Hello Bruce:

    Hope all is well.  I couldn't help but respond to your post.  Anyhow...  
I'll make this as quick as possible.

    " I don't think you can find good qulaity provider for that many concurrent 
channels. " - I beg to differ and with respect I must inform you that you are 
incorrect.  We already have several providers we work with closely that 
provides great quality of service, who has the ability to terminate several 
hundred concurrent channels to anyone who can accept SIP or H323 signaling.

    " But that many channels is not possible .... " - once again, I beg to 
differ.  We have deployed solutions at clients, with all the channels they 
need.  And what you are indicating as not being possible, is fortunately 100% 
possible.   

    Out of fairness to others here who are considering using VoIP for their 
business, or thinking of providing VoIP services, the price range of $14-$15 
per channel is 100% possible.  We know it because we have purchased and 
harnessed these type of services before, not only for our own business use, but 
also for our clients.

    Also fyi., anyone who requires 10 or more channels, can acquire the 
services of their CLEC.   When you are commiting to 10 or more channels 
monthly, most CLECs are pretty smart to work hard to earn your business.  Of 
course anything less than 10 channels, they don't want to talk to you :).

    Cheers!
    Reza.


    ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Bruce Nik 
      To: Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd ; TAUG - Biz 
      Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 7:31 PM
      Subject: RE: [biz] Looking for a provider to port my toronto number


      Hello Aloysius,
       
      I don't think you can find good qulaity provider for that many concurrent 
channels. You can always try DID providers like LES.net, unlimitel.ca and so 
on. But that many channels is not possible unless you really want and then if 
you raise the price I might be able to help you.
       
      Bruce






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        Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:48:09 -0400
        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: [biz] Looking for a provider to port my toronto number

        Hi,

        I am looking for a DID provider for My existing Toronto numbers.

        10 Channels  ( Fixed price $14 ~ $15 )
        5 DID numbers

        Any recommendation is appreciate

        Thank you
        Lloyd





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