"blackholing" means blocking an ISP (mail traffic, etc) by domain or IP
range. If you're blackholed you cannot send mail to ISPs that deem your
activity inappropriate - blacklisted is a better term... but you mail
'does' go into a 'blackhole' (it may seem...)
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Charles Daminato
TUCOWS Product Manager (ccTLDs)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Alpha Opportunities wrote:
> Pardon my ignorance (and I am not being sarcastic here), but what is
> blackholing? This is a new term to me. And is it legal? Who engages in
> such practices, and why?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Frank
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: profanedomains.com
>
>
> >
> > I completely agree in priciple, that censorship is bad.
> > For us, this is a business decision.
> > We are an ISP/WebHosting business first, and an RSP and "protector of
> > free speech" second.
> >
> > We give free parking and framed redirect(with an ad), and all email to
> > the admin contact included with domain name registrations through our
> > system. In this way, we encourage our web hosting business.
> > However, we don't want to host domains that will get our mailservers
> > blackholed. Do you know how easy it is to get your mailserver
> > blackholed? Take a look at the blackhole lists.....there is a common
> > thread.
> > http://maps.vix.com/rbl/candidacy.html#ByAssociation
> >
> > It has nothing to do with censorship, and even though those we refuse to
> > register might feel otherwise, we DO have the right to do business with
> > whomever we choose.
> >
> > -Ken
> > http://pacificdomains.net
> >
> >
> > Alpha Opportunities wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, my turn to weigh in on this already beaten-to-death subject (this
> must
> > > be a new record for list messages on a single topic in such a short
> time --
> > > you can see how much interest this topic generates and, inter alia, why
> so
> > > many people and companies want to register so-called "risque" names).
> > >
> > > I think, as RSPs, we should stay the f**k out of censorship, and let
> people
> > > decide for themselves what names are or are not proper for their given
> > > businesses. And when you look at some of the names already out there
> (go
> > > ahead, think of the sleaziest, crudest, most disgusting, illegal things
> you
> > > can think of, and do a search if you don't believe me), geez, something
> with
> > > such a mild component as the f-word is hardly anything worth sweating
> over.
> > > What five-year-old doesn't have it as part of his or her vocabulary
> already?
> > >
> > > Personally, I can't stand censorship and holier-than-thou hypocrisy, so
> > > unless you are a church or some sort of religious group, just run your
> damn
> > > RSP and let your clients make their own decisions like big boys and
> girls.
> > >
> > > That's one of the reasons I have chosen not to register any .ws names
> > > (besides the fact that I don't think they carry near the weight of a
> .com
> > > domain) -- they want to censor everthing the least bit off-color and
> just
> > > don't let you register it. What BS -- who gives them the moral right to
> > > tell me what is acceptable and what is not?
> > >
> > > Having lived in lots of highly hypocritical cultures (yes, even more so
> than
> > > the U.S. and Canada, if you can believe that), it has been my experience
> > > that the more people mind other people's business, the less they mind
> their
> > > own, with disasterous consequences for their countries, societies, and
> > > economies -- not to mention their own pathetic narrow little lives.
> > >
> > > Anyway, my two cents, for what it is worth in this increasingly uptight
> > > world.
> > >
> > > Frank J. Yacenda
> > > President & CEO
> > > Alpha Opportunities
> > > www.dotyourdomain.com
> > > Domains just $14.99/year
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 12:26 PM
> > > Subject: Re: profanedomains.com
> > >
> > > > There's one thing in this thread that may have been overlooked (just
> to
> > > > protect DomainDirect/Tucows, mind you...).
> > > >
> > > > Many of our resellers still use ns1/ns2.domaindirect.com as their
> > > > default nameservers (against our advisement, and we're working on
> > > > getting this all changed). So even though the nameservers show as
> ours,
> > > > it's possible that this domain wasn't registered through us.
> Although,
> > > > I cannot verify as I do not know the domain name in question....
> > > >
> > > > That aside - when ICANN deregulated the name space, hordes of names
> > > > (mostly through CORE) that were 'risque' became part of the general
> name
> > > > space. In respect to competition, if the customer isn't doing
> anything
> > > > illegal, a new name is a new name :)
> > > >
> > > > Ken wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, this is a joke right? well, sort of..
> > > > >
> > > > > A customer of ours just registered a domain that started with the
> > > > > "f-word" at domaindirect.com
> > > > >
> > > > > We had refused to register it, since we have strong feelings about
> the
> > > > > wisdom of registering such names AND we were advised by opensrs
> support
> > > > > that they were constrained by network solutions rules and would not
> > > > > register such names.
> > > > >
> > > > > We don't plan to start handling these names, since the repurcussions
> of
> > > > > name@fu**this.com are very negative for our business, but I am
> suprised
> > > > > that domaindirect.com, a Tucows company would do this, when opensrs
> > > > > staff advised us that they would not / could not do it.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Ken
> > > > > http://domains.pacific.net
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Charles Daminato
> > > > Tucows Product Manager (ccTLDs)
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
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