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* McCain: No, really, we vetted her! - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Ms Creationist Abstinence Whore Sounds Just Like Jenny McCarthy - 1 messages,
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* McDiaper Could Have Chosen A Rotting Corpse & Rightards Would Be Cheering -
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* Palin: "Iraq war 'a task that is from God" - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: McCain: No, really, we vetted her!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/browse_thread/thread/c4fa74d804a46161?hl=en
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Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 11:36 pm
From: "None O' Yer Bidness"
"Sid9" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> EXCERPT: But it does seem like most of the vetting focused on legal, not
> political, issues. The campaign called a New York Times story Tuesday that
> raised questions about the vetting "fiction." That story quoted Alaska
> Republicans saying the campaign never called around Palin's world to find
> anything out about her. "I started calling around and asking, and I have
> not been able to find one person that was called," former Alaska House
> Speaker Gail Phillips told the Times. McCain aides admit that only a very
> small number of close advisors knew who McCain was considering. They seem
> to have relied mostly on Palin's own answers to their questions; whether
> the campaign did much additional due diligence on her isn't entirely
> clear. (No one searched the archives of the Wasilla newspaper, which are
> available only on microfilm, because they worried that would tip people
> off that Palin was being considered.)
>
> http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/03/palin/print.html
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> McCain: No, really, we vetted her!
>
> As revelations about Sarah Palin mount, the McCain team scrambles to
> dispel reports that they didn't know what they were getting into.
> By Mike Madden
>
> Sep. 03, 2008 | A few hours before dawn Tuesday, the Intrade predictions
> market started taking bets on a new proposition: that Sarah Palin would
> drop off the Republican ticket before the election. Speculators started
> buying a few hours later; by mid-afternoon, nearly 2,000 trades had been
> made by people hoping to make a quick buck off of the revelations about
> the Alaska governor that kept leaking out the day before. (Her husband had
> a DUI, she once flirted with a secessionist Alaska political party and
> there was also something or another about her daughter).
>
> Those bets might, eventually pay off. But only if John McCain and his
> senior staff have a sudden change of heart. McCain's aides, suddenly
> finding themselves on the defensive about a V.P. pick they still think is
> a stroke of genius, are pushing back hard against the idea that Palin
> slipped through their selection process somehow, and against reports in
> the media that detail just who they didn't call when vetting her. (The
> campaign has even, apparently, decided to double down on Palin's
> popularity with the family values crowd; Levi Johnston, Bristol Palin's
> boyfriend and the father of the child she is expecting, reportedly will
> join the Palins at the convention.) "She's fully vetted," senior
> strategist Steve Schmidt insisted. McCain himself chimed in Tuesday from
> Philadelphia. "The vetting process was completely thorough, and I'm
> grateful for the results," he told reporters in response to shouted
> questions.
>
> If you ask McCain's team, the skepticism about Palin's experience is
> totally unwarranted. "She's more qualified than Obama," senior advisor
> Mark Salter told Salon, citing her 13 years in elected office (including
> her time on the Wasilla, Alaska, city council). "He has no business being
> president." Campaign aides seem unwilling to drop the line that Palin's
> command of the Alaska National Guard gives her an important credential,
> even though it sometimes sounds a little silly coming from Republican
> loyalists. "She's run her own military," said Joseph LeBlanc, 82, a
> delegate from Mountain Home, Ark. "Alaska is the biggest land [area]
> state," said Betty Kiene, an alternate from Piedmont, Okla. "Her neighbors
> are Canada and Russia, which means she's dealt with international
> problems."
>
> The McCain campaign sees Palin as more than tough enough to withstand the
> feeding frenzy here this week -- and in fact, they think it might help
> her. Schmidt said the more the media digs into the story of Bristol
> Palin's pregnancy, the less the public will respect the press (and the
> more voters will buy the McCain team's assertion that Barack Obama is
> getting a free pass from reporters). The campaign ratcheted that argument
> up Tuesday, canceling a McCain interview with CNN after the network's
> Campbell Brown bodyslammed campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds Monday night.
>
> They've put veteran operatives from the Bush administration (and two Karl
> Rove-led Bush campaigns) in charge of getting Palin ready for prime
> time -- former White House speechwriter Matt Scully is writing her
> convention speech (and wrote the remarks she gave on Friday) and former
> Bush strategist Tucker Eskew is working with Palin on press strategy.
> Senior aides said the campaign also dispatched a team of consultants and
> lawyers to Alaska to basically take over Palin's political operation. The
> lawyers were, allegedly, there to help the communications people
> understand vetting documents so they could spin them. The McCain team
> denies they are the after-the-fact vetting team described in the media,
> but at the very least they must also be trying to figure out if any new
> surprises are in the Alaska pipeline.
>
> So far, the McCain team says they saw all the questions about her coming.
> In conversations at the convention, McCain aides indicated the end of
> their months-long vice presidential search came quickly, but not
> necessarily in haste. By the time McCain had settled on Palin last
> Tuesday, she had already filled out a 70-question vetting form full of
> personal, "intrusive" questions. She'd turned over financial documents and
> (apparently, since the McCain campaign sent around her entire voter
> registration history on Tuesday) political ones, as well. (A Republican
> consultant who isn't working for McCain but is familiar with the questions
> two other V.P. finalists were asked told Salon it seems Palin went through
> exactly the same process.)
>
> Palin flew down to McCain's Sedona, Ariz., cabin in secret on Wednesday
> and met for three or four hours with Schmidt and senior advisor Mark
> Salter, before meeting with McCain in private for an hour Thursday. Before
> McCain offered her the job, he went through the pros and cons of picking
> her with top aides.
>
> But it does seem like most of the vetting focused on legal, not political,
> issues. The campaign called a New York Times story Tuesday that raised
> questions about the vetting "fiction." That story quoted Alaska
> Republicans saying the campaign never called around Palin's world to find
> anything out about her. "I started calling around and asking, and I have
> not been able to find one person that was called," former Alaska House
> Speaker Gail Phillips told the Times. McCain aides admit that only a very
> small number of close advisors knew who McCain was considering. They seem
> to have relied mostly on Palin's own answers to their questions; whether
> the campaign did much additional due diligence on her isn't entirely
> clear. (No one searched the archives of the Wasilla newspaper, which are
> available only on microfilm, because they worried that would tip people
> off that Palin was being considered.)
>
> It's true that McCain -- or at least some people close to him -- wanted to
> go with a candidate who was, incidentally, already fully vetted, albeit by
> Al Gore's team eight years ago. Some of the McCain inner circle was set on
> Joe Lieberman until conservatives shot that idea down faster than Sarah
> Palin shooting a moose. But Palin seems to have appealed to McCain for
> some of the same reasons that he wanted Lieberman in the first place; her
> image as a combative reformer fits McCain's own self-image, and dodging a
> safe pick like Mitt Romney or Tim Pawlenty in favor of a little-known
> Alaskan is a move right out of the McCain mythology.
>
> But that's the problem. So far, in fact, what's tripping McCain up about
> Palin isn't what he didn't know about her, it's what he did. Is it a good
> thing that, as a McCain aide told me, one of the reasons McCain likes her
> is that she has some of the same enemies he does in Alaska? The impulsive
> decision to run with Palin because she seemed like a kindred spirit is,
> indeed, the kind of thing that McCain used to do all the time, both during
> his 2000 campaign and during the dark days in 2007 when his campaign had
> imploded and he was running the whole thing on a wing and a prayer from
> his "Straight Talk Express" bus. It definitely isn't the kind of thing
> that helped him pull even with Obama in polls last month with a
> disciplined, focused campaign. And depending on who wins the race to
> define Palin, it may not be the kind of thing that convinces voters that
> McCain -- and not Obama -- ought to be the man to lead the country for the
> next four years.
>
>
> -- By Mike Madden
They never even did an FBI check on her.
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TOPIC: Ms Creationist Abstinence Whore Sounds Just Like Jenny McCarthy
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/browse_thread/thread/1cf3508f26310eb3?hl=en
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Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 11:37 pm
From: Möbius Pretzel
McLame is toast.
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TOPIC: McDiaper Could Have Chosen A Rotting Corpse & Rightards Would Be
Cheering
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/browse_thread/thread/98c477eb3faf7e49?hl=en
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Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 11:56 pm
From: Möbius Pretzel
These morons are deluded loons. Whatever speech they were watching, it
had nothing to do with reality.
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TOPIC: Palin: "Iraq war 'a task that is from God"
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Date: Thurs, Sep 4 2008 12:07 am
From: Möbius Pretzel
Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the
United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a "task that is
from God."
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080903/D92VHQP05.html
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This bitch is as crazy as Bush.
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