I have not had the pasture here I should have had this winter, for several 
reasons, one being the drought.  I just had the smallest lamb born I have 
ever seen yesterday morning.  He is doing fine, but only weighs about 2 
lbs..  I tube fed him a 1/2 oz in the morning, and 1/2 oz 4 hours later then 
about 5pm fed another 1oz while my vet noted how full he was as I was 
feeding the tube..  The little guy is doing fine today in a pen under a big 
shade tree. !!  He is a twin and the other is about 3 1/2 lbs.  I have had 
triplets that were larger!!

Cecil
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RBMuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [blackbelly] amount of colostrum needed


>
> Thank you Cecil for sharing your experiences.  I don't respond often to 
> the
> list.
> I too think that most people overfeed their bottle babies.  In our haste 
> to
> be a good steward we forget that the little critters do not have human
> emotion or needs.
> In the past I too tried to feed too much too often.  Now I just keep the
> baby warm, feed small amounts 2 to 3 hours apart (only during daylight
> hours), and try not to worry.
> Even as the lambs get older, I do not exceed 3 cups of milk replacer a day
> and that is usually split into 2 to 3 feedings during the daylight hours. 
> I
> do not offer grain as their stomachs have trouble processing it.  They are
> fed a small pellet and alfalfa hay.  Haven't lost a lamb in several years.
> My ewes have taken care of their lambs this year and it has been a rough
> year here in TX.  Now we have grass and it is wonderful to see well fed
> lambs with their slick mamas.
> Thank you,
> Rhonda
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cecil Bearden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] amount of colostrum needed
>
>
>>I disagree with this recommendation.  I have had 4 lambs in the past 7
>>years
>> that had to be bottle fed.  3 died.  I now believe this was from
>> enteroxemia
>> due to over feeding.  The lamb that I had so much trouble with but
>> survived
>> has shown me that I was over feeding.  When weighed about 8 lbs when I 
>> was
>> feeding her 1 oz every 2 hours and developed enterotoxemia.  I later 
>> tried
>> this again a week later and she nearly died from overeating.
>>
>> I milked out a ewe that had twins and one born dead.  The other was very
>> weak from the birthing.  I only got 1 oz from her total.  I fed the lamb
>> with a tube and he is doing fine now.  If he had nursed and had another
>> sibling, he only would have received 1/2 oz.
>>
>> I had a lamb that was very cold from exposure and not enough milk.  I
>> brought him into the house and fed him during the night.  about 1 1/2 oz
>> every 1 1/2 hours.  He died 24 hours later.  I pulled fluid from his
>> stomach
>> when I was trying to revive him and got a back fluid.  This was the
>> stomach
>> lining due to enterotoxemia.  Same fluid found  when I had so much 
>> trouble
>> with my latest bottle baby that is now doing fine.  She has been bouncing
>> around in a playpen in the living room.  She goes everywhere with me. 
>> One
>> of these days she is going to be a sheep, not a child..
>>
>> I have discussed this with my vet who is on site nearly every day and he
>> agrees that we have just overfed blackbellies in the past and we have
>> altered our feeding amounts for newborns.
>>
>> Just my $0.02
>>
>> Cecil Bearden
>> Oklahoma
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Carol Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>; "Nancy Richardson"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] amount of colostrum needed
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Nancy,
>>>
>>> This is from Laura Lawson's book, Managing Your Ewe and Her Newborn 
>>> Lambs
>>> (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/096339231X/critterhavenesta
>>>
>>> I consider this book to be a Must-Have book for all shepherds.
>>>
>>> "Recommendations by knowledgeable authorities are for a minimum of 7 oz.
>>> as
>>> a first feeding after birth. Lambs may need as much as 12 oz. depending
>>> on
>>> the size of the lamb. The equation set forth is about 20cc per pound of
>>> body weight for the first feeding. The lamb should receive this amount
>>> from
>>> 30 to 60 minutes of birth. ... In the case of orphan lambs, initial
>>> amounts
>>> of colostrum should be followed at later feedings with divided amounts 
>>> of
>>> colostrum for 24 hours. Amounts should equal 15% to 20% of the lamb's
>>> body
>>> weight. Unfortunately producers don't have unlimited supplies of
>>> colostrum.
>>> This often requires using artificial colostrum for future feedings. Only
>>> use these after giving the lamb the initial appropriate ewe colostrum of
>>> a
>>> minimum amount of 7 oz. within one hour of birth."
>>>
>>> These amounts are for wooled sheep; here are the adjustments that should
>>> be
>>> made for smaller blackbelly sheep.
>>>
>>> Let's do the math on her formula 20 cc colostrum per pound of lamb
>>> Let's say the average blackbelly lamb is 6 lb.
>>> 20 cc X 6 lb = 120 cc
>>> Convert this to ounces (1 oz = 30 mL = 30 cc): 120 cc / 30 cc = 4 oz for
>>> the first feeding after birth.
>>>
>>> She says the total amount for 24 hours should be 20% of the lamb's
>>> weight.
>>> 6 lb x 16 oz/lb = 96 oz.   20% of 96 oz. = 19 oz.
>>>
>>> So, although your 7 oz. exceeded the first feeding requirement, it was
>>> short of the total amount needed in 24 hours by 12 oz.
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>> At 09:48 PM 5/5/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>Hello, does any one know how much colostrum is needed by a lamb? We had
>>>>triplets born. 2 of them to small to reach momma and her to wild to
>>>>catch.
>>>>I
>>>>fed them both 3 ounces of colostrum mix before they were 2 hours old. 
>>>>But
>>>>after that could only get about 1/2 ounce down them every few hours for 
>>>>a
>>>>total of about 7 ounces in 24 hours. They only weigh about 2 pounds or 
>>>>so
>>>>each. They are very small. We have never raised ones so small. Thanks
>>>>Nancy
>>>
>>> Carol Elkins
>>> Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep
>>> (no shear, no dock, no fuss)
>>> Pueblo, Colorado
>>> http://www.critterhaven.biz
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