oh, I give them their fave food and just dump it on the other side of the
fence, then drop in a yardstick as they nosh. While the stick might spook
them a bit, they get over it and prefer food over a scary foreign object.
This is with one of my more tame rams, though.

To answer Tiana's question: from what state does your stock come from? Are
you American Blackbelly, or Barbados Blackbelly?
In California, the AB sheep (I have never seen a BB ram) have typically
been exposed to some standard 300 lb wool sheep and painted desert sheep
with good, curly horns, back in their ancestry.  My flock is not a large
quantity, only 15 sheep, and only half have good markings that would be
called conforming. My breeding is for coat -markings, not size, since
everyone is basically the same. Also, I don't sell or eat mine, so it's my
own personal project, which is why I am not concerned about carcass weight.

my ewes are generally a bit lighter in weight than the rams, but have the
same overall appearance. The few wethered rams I have look just like the
ewes (including the smaller heads--compared to horned rams) and are maybe
2-3" taller at the shoulder

also, the pictures are taken in the late summer, when the grass is at it's
dryest. I find it bloats their rumens quite a bit, compared to wet grass in
the winter/spring. So, in the winter, they get all muscular and a layer of
fat on their ribs, but their stomachs appear flatter on the sides. In the
summer, I have to fight to provide better nutrients and they can get a bit
ribby, but their stomachs look much bigger, all day long, giving them a
"big" appearance.

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Rick Krach <rickkr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Michael, I'll put a picture of my ram on the Blackbelly FB page or email
> it to you after I take some today.  I, actually measuring him would be a
> joke since I cannot really, safely catch him.
> Rick Krach
> in Auburn, CA
> ----------------------------------------
> > From: mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com
> > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 19:32:19 -0700
> > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
> > Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] fighting rams
> >
> > Rick, I measured one of the rams in that video at 29" at the shoulder
> > (subtracting the hair on his shoulders--so it;s a true measurement)
> >
> > how big are your non-crossed rams?
> >
> > -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Rick Krach <rickkr...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Wow, this was a really great video. Now that you show it again, I
> remember the original, but I didn't remember how LARGE all three rams were.
> What in the world do you do to get such big sheep? My American Blackbellies
> are much thinner, so that I cross them with Dorpers to get larger lambs!
> >>
> >> Rick Krach
> >> in Auburn, CA
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