Support Requests item #755562, was opened at 2003-06-16 14:46
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Category: Compilation or Installation Issue
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Status: Open
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: Red Hat Linux 9.0

Initial Comment:
Can someone please provide line-by-line specific
instructions to integrate Blackbox 0.65 into a full
install of Red Hat Linux 9.0? I have been working on
this work weeks and can't get it to integrate (I can
get it to compile properly). Thanks.

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2004-01-22 17:06

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Well I only just got linux so Im not too savy but I got it
working by doing the command 'switchdesk TWM' so it creates
the file '.Xclient-default' or something like that in my
home directory. Then used nano to edit it so instead of
launching TWM it launches blackbox.

Hope that helps

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2003-12-20 12:49

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I noticed that when you run MAKE you get an error on the 
language translation.  If you run MAKE again, and again for 
each error when it is done compiling the language files the 
compile will finish.  I can't get blackbox to run however
[EMAIL PROTECTED] progs]# blackbox
BaseDisplay::BaseDisplay: connection to X server failed.

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Comment By: Edward Iglesias (templeward)
Date: 2003-12-16 08:47

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The way I got it to work was by installint Apt from
http://freshrpms.net/apt/
Then it was simply a matter of typing at the command line
apt-get install blackbox
Blackbox installed with all of its dependancies.  Then I
just logged out and chose a diffrent session when logging
back in.

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Comment By: Shawn Kirk (zentsang)
Date: 2003-12-11 13:12

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I am experiencing the same problem.  I downloaded the tar.gz
... uncompressed it ... ./configure ... make generated error
1 at the end and su - 'make install' wouldn't complete
successfully so I'm still without Blackbox.

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Comment By: Scott R. Godin (webdragon)
Date: 2003-10-29 17:59

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the easiest way to set up blackbox under redhat 9 is 

    init 3 [if you're running under runlevel 5]

if not, exit from X and do:

    swichdesk twm

and then go back with 
 
    switchdesk (gnome|kde) [this will create the ~/.Xclients
and ~/.Xclients-default files.]

    vim ~/.Xclients-default

[comment out the startkde or gnome-session exec line, and add

    exec /usr/local/bin/blackbox

save and exit

    sudo vim /etc/inittab

    :%s/id:5:/id:3:/

save and exit

now when you boot, you'll be booting to the console not the
pretty login, but it's easy enough to run startx from there. 

If you want GDM/KDM/XDM login then it starts getting tricky.
However, this works, and works fine. 

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Comment By: Scott MacGregor (shadowbq)
Date: 2003-10-28 18:45

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Had problems when I made the files.. hehe..oops
chown and chmod is a must when your su creating files.

chmod --reference=./Xclients.gnome ./Xclients.blackbox

X11 error log for users in Rh9
/home/~user/.xsession-errors

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2003-10-24 15:06

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I think the easier way to do it is with .xinitrc, in your home directory. 

You can have other window managers "commented" out with the `#' 
character

For me it's:
#gnome-session
#exec /usr/local/bin/whiteBOX
#startkde
exec /usr/local/bin/blackbox
xset +dpms


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Comment By: Scott MacGregor (shadowbq)
Date: 2003-10-24 14:03

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Ok I edited all those files but I get session error when I 
attempt to login.. It fails (less than 10 seconds). Where 
would that error log be so I can get more details about why 
its not loading??

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Comment By: tamara (novelnous)
Date: 2003-10-18 10:45

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edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession by adding  blackbox line
(back up the old Xsession file)
.
.
.
# now, we see if xdm/gdm/kdm has asked for a specific
environment
case $# in
.
.
      kde|kde1|kde2)
       exec -l $SHELL -c "$SSHAGENT
/usr/share/apps/switchdesk/Xclients.kde"
       ;;
    blackbox)
       exec -l $SHELL -c "$SSHAGENT
/usr/share/apps/switchdesk/Xclients.blackbox
"
       ;;

   twm)
        # fall back to twm
.
.
.
make sure it looks like the other window manager is in the
file, the editor here isn't letting me make long enough lines. 

then go to /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions
and add a file called blackbox which looks like the other
files in the directory... basically:

#!/bin/bash

exec /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession blackbox


then go to 
/usr/share/apps/switchdesk/
and make a file called Xclients.blackbox containing whatever
you want 
to do on startup, but especially the 'exec blackbox' line:



xscreensaver -no-splash &
exec bbpager &
exec bbkeys -i &
exec blackbox



that should work. you might wanna install bbpager and such
if you want to use them. i did this a little while ago, so i
hope i didn't miss anything.




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Comment By: Scott MacGregor (shadowbq)
Date: 2003-10-18 10:09

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rh9.0

After installing all the dev .rpms Xfree/freetype/font then I 
made the install.. 
tar -xvzf blackbox-0.65*.tar.gz
./configure --enable-nls=no
make 
make install

Installed bbkeys & bbconfig 

But how do I access it with a user? 

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Comment By: Scott MacGregor (shadowbq)
Date: 2003-10-18 08:11

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Ok.. Im a newb.. can someone please point me to a site that 
has documentation for step by step instructions on what I 
need to install it on rh 9.0 and how to set new desktop 
enviroments on a linux system?

http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/redhat/9/blackbox/blac
kbox-0.65.0-fr4.src.rpm

I found the rpm but once I execute the rpm then what.. how 
do I change my user to that desktop etc?



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Comment By: Gaurang Khetan (grkhetan)
Date: 2003-10-07 01:06

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Check out the blackbox rpm present on http://freshrpms.net
for Redhat 9.


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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2003-10-07 00:59

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You can try the blackbox rpm available on the
http://freshrpms.net site.

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2003-10-01 19:37

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I CAN'T get it to compile properly, what am I missing?

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Comment By: tamara (novelnous)
Date: 2003-09-03 20:37

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thanks guys it worked! looks like i missed xfree86-devel
somehow... 

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Comment By: Scott R. Godin (webdragon)
Date: 2003-09-03 19:25

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oops, I put rpm -qa |sort >instpkgs twice in the
'progression of events'. 

my bad. you don't need to do it twice. :-) 

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Comment By: Scott R. Godin (webdragon)
Date: 2003-09-03 19:23

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on the subject of LANG, my /etc/sysconfig/i18n is set to this: 
LC_ALL="C"
LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="C"
SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en"

the LC_COLLATE is redundant but is there to remind me to
make sure it stays set to C if/when I upgrade. 

I had no problems compiling blackbox on this system but then
I used ./configure --disable-nls.

on the subject of other compiling issues, yes you do need a
goodly number of *-devel packages installed on the system.
For redhat 9 you can do (up2date --showall |sort >9allpkgs;
rpm -qa |sort >instpkgs)

Once you have these two files you can extract from them
anything you need, and diff the results. 

so, here's the progression of events: 

up2date --showall |sort >9allpkgs 
rpm -qa |sort >instpkgs
egrep '^\w+-devel.*' 9allpkgs >all-devel
less all-devel; # just checking :)
rpm -qa |sort >instpkgs
egrep '^\w+-devel.*' instpkgs > inst-devel
less inst-devel; # just checking again :)
vimdiff inst-devel all-devel
or if you're in X: gvim -d inst-devel all-devel
or plain-old diff -y inst-devel all-devel |less

This should help you more clearly ascertain which *-devel
packages you are missing and/or might need and which you can
then up2date -i package1 package2 etc  :)

hope this helps. 

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Comment By: Jamin W. Collins (jamincollins)
Date: 2003-09-03 18:44

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Sounds like you don't have the xlib development package
installed.  Not completely sure what it's called in RH 9.x

This might be the package your looking for:
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/9/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/XFree86-devel-4.3.0-2.i386.rpm

Once it's installed try the configure again.

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Comment By: tamara (novelnous)
Date: 2003-09-03 18:33

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I tried to get it compile but i can't get beyond the
configuration part.
i haven't had problems with other linux distros but with
RedHat 9.0
i get :

checking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... no
configure: error: Could not find XOpenDisplay in -lX11.

any ideas?

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Comment By: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry (shaleh)
Date: 2003-06-24 19:06

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before you run configure do this:

export LANG=en_US
export LC_ALL=en_US

The RH default is en_US.UTF8 which confuses the gnu
translation program.

We try to make blackbox compile 100% silently so any
warnings seen are considered low priority bugs.

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Comment By: Bruce Smith (a_space_monkey)
Date: 2003-06-24 17:11

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Thanks to a tip at http://lists.freshrpms.net/pipermail/rpm-
list/2003-April/003924.html
I tried "./configure --enable-nls=no"
and then "make" learned to play nice, compiling without errors 
(plenty of warnings but who cares about those?).

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2003-06-24 16:48

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Blackbox 0.65 won't compile under RH9 for me either.
./configure runs without errors
make coughs up at:
make[3]: Entering directory '/home/apps/blackbox/blackbox-
0.65.0/nls/es_ES'
Translation.m:3: invalid character: message ignored
^ the above line is repeated for lines 4, 7, 8, 9, 13, 17, 19, 
20, ... [and so on]...,182

My Redhat install is US-English.  I don't speak spanish.  Why 
is it trying to read the spanish translation file?

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2003-06-18 08:37

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I don't know if your issue is the same. I needed a small
footprint Window manager and I liked old versions of
BlackBox, so I gave it a shot. 
Below is a sample of the errors I am getting. Note I have
compiled setting "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" and "LANG=". The output
of the errors vary depending on the values of this variable.
Unfortunately I have no time to check on this deeper, so I
just picked another WM.

JUAN

Translation.m:186: invalid character: message ignored
make[3]: *** [blackbox.cat] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/home/jmedina/Downloads/blackbox-0.65.0/nls/fr_FR'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/jmedina/Downloads/blackbox-0.65.0/nls'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/jmedina/Downloads/blackbox-0.65.0'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] blackbox-0.65.0]# 

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Comment By: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry (shaleh)
Date: 2003-06-17 13:28

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Sorry, this is not very clear.  What is it you want,
specifically?


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