On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 12:15:39PM -0400, Gregory J. Barlow wrote:
> 
> > Here, let me sum it up, before this turns into a flame:
> >
> > New features: No.
> >
> > and then they'll start calling you a creep.
> >
> > Or wait, maybe they call the features creeps... no no, I'm pretty sure
> > they call you a creep, and tell you they don't like features...
> > hrmm... oh well, i'm sure discussion will invariably insue, and it'll
> > be exactly like the 15 other discussions that have happened. :)
> >
> > Let's just hope this doesn't turn into a feature war over flame creep!
> 
> Feature creep and feature refinement are two entirely different things.
> Adding X to blackbox, where X is something from another window manager
> people "absolutely must have", is feature creep.  Making existing window
> manager fuctionality better is not.  And if you have your own code that
> implements what you want, its a very different matter.

Agreed. I have no hesitation about changing blackbox so that it
does something properly (though sometimes what is proper is up
for debate). Beyond that I take all possible changes with a grain
of salt.

> > > I have done (and I continue to do) some little improvements
> > > to Blackbox, such as
> > > - Button{1,3} with modifier ALT on window still works when
> > >   {Num,Caps,Scroll}Lock are on/off
> 
> I know bbkeys does this for key bindings, it might be worthwhile to
> include this.  Personally, I like that blackbox has this behavior, it
> gives you an easy way to quickly get rid of bindings temporarily.

I'm torn on this, and have been for ages. (I have changed the code
so that click-to-focus works with locks on, though.)

> > > - the ability to resize windows from the left if the user click
> > >   on the left side of the window and from the right if the user
> > >   click on the right side (actually it always resize the window
> > >   from the right)
> 
> Problem is, what if you want to use the frame to move the window?  I do
> this a lot.  I think two resize handles are enough, though thats me.

I'm not sure I understand your objection... I think the patch is just
supposed to affect ALT+RIGHT_CLICK resizing (can't say for sure, I
don't receive any mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). I had been considering
doing something similar, but was still debating it -- it can be really
annoying sometimes, especially if there are a bunch of different resize
zones (though with bb I'd only put in two : left and right).

> You should post patches to this list.  Maybe they won't get included
> in the main source, but it would be of interest to many people, since
> a lot of us run patched source. (Unless some sort of miraculous change
> occurs, I won't ever be running unpatched blackbox again.  See previous
> messages re: keybindings)

Posting them to the list is always a good idea... (that way if I lose
them I can just check the mailing list archive...)

Jeff Raven

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