On Wed, Nov14,01 11:36, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
> On Wed, 2001-11-14 at 09:20, Derek Cunningham wrote:
> <snip> 
> > ok... to clarify: bbappconf removed all the window decorations (including
> > title bar). Now, having done this, I fully expected to have to alt-click to
> > move my windows, since that's what I had to do with Eterm when it was
> > borderless, but this doesn't work.
> > 
> <more snipping> 
> > when bbappconf removes the window decorations on aterm, alt+click doesn't
> > work... and I want to know why... this is utterly annoying!
> 
> 
> Okay.  Yes, you're absolutely right.  And this is a blackbox issue. 
> Blackbox is broke WRT windows that have decorations removed from them.

and yet there are some people on this list that feel that blackbox is fine
as is. Sure, this is an eye-candy issue... but still, it's a bug, period.

> I've added code to bbkeys to allow decoration toggling (toggleDecor,
> which will add or strip decorations from the currently-focused window)
> and went as far as I can go. 

ok... is this a patch to bbkeys, or is it in the main distro? how do I
utilize this function?

also, if I start an app without decorations, is it's upper-left corner in
the same position as if it HAD decorations? or is it displaced by the space
that the decorations would actually take up?

I ask because I can live without moving SOME of my apps, but in order to do
this, I have to place them.. and I want to just move them (with decorations)
to get the coordinates... and then once I move them... I can reexecute them
with the coords, and without decor.

> Blackbox's internals are broken also with
> regards to being able to tell other apps what the decoration state of a
> given window is.  

where is this functionality useful?

> I've patched blackbox to at least tell external
> applications whether a given window is decorated or not, but it really
> does no good because there's the other problem in which blackbox acts
> like it's going to let you move or resize a now-undecorated window, but
> doesn't really do it.
> 

another bug. see above statement!

> I've approached Raven (who responded to me, but it's been so long I
> forget what was said) 

of course, you archive your email, correct? :) so you could easily load up
your personal archives, to find out what's up. :)

> and nyz (who said that the version of KDE that he
> runs doesn't have that issue  =:)  ) about this and it never went
> anywhere.

haha... so basically, in short, nyz has given up on bb?

> 
> So, Jeff, if you're out there, is there any update on where this falls
> on the official blackbox TODO list?
> 

better question: IS THERE a todo list? and is there any update at all WRT
blackbox development?

DC

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Derek Cunningham
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