> From: Jason vanRijn Kasper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bbkeys configuration [was: Re: iconized bbkeys]
> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:20:27 -0500
>
> On Thursday 15 November 2001 14:36, Scott Moynes wrote:
> > * Roman Neuhauser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > To answer my own question, and so that it's archived:
> > > the keymap file (.bbkeysrc) is not the same as the style file
> > > (bbtools/bbkeys.bb). Looks like the -c switch is meant for the latter
> > > one, and bbkeys doesn't respond to any mapped keypresses if you point
> > > it at .bbkeysrc with -c.
> >
> > A few days ago I created just such a patch, and should be in the
> > mailing list archives by now. It has been accepted for inclusion in
> > the next release of bbkeys which, from what I hear, should happen any
> > day now. If you can't wait, it's in the CVS tree, which seems to be
> > pretty stable right now, so feel free to grab the newest tree.
>
> As Scott said above, this has been included in bbkeys-0.8.4. BBkeys will now
> allow command-line configurability of where its look-and-feel config file
> comes from as well as where its keybindings config file comes from. I'm not
> quite done with what I want in there for 0.8.4 yet, so if you're so inclined,
> please pull bbkeys down from CVS and give it a whirl. One thing to be
> noted, though, is that this will most probably cause some issues down the
> road when blackbox has rudimentary keybindings built into it, as blackbox
> proper will by default look in ~/.bbkeysrc for its own limited keybindings.
As I'm really new to this list (have been lurking for a week or so, but
not paying much attention), why should BB have its own keybindings, when
bbkeys does the job so well?
> > > There is one glitch I can see: currently, bbkeysconf and the like
> > > don't have to look where the actual keymap file resides: it's hardcoded
> > > as ~/.bbkeysrc. This could be solved like this: the path to the keymap
> > > file would be specified in the style file, and bbkeysconf would look for
> > > it there. If the style file doesn't contain the directive, just dump it
> > > to the standard place.
> >
> > vanRijn, the author of bbkeys, told me he was in the process of
> > changing that. However, I don't think it will be changed in
> > bbkeysconf. I think that configurator has been superceded by bbconf;
> > look for the changes there.
>
> Um. There's no way I want to even think about putting bbkeys.conffile: into
> style files. bbkeys will look for its keybindings in two places: either you
> tell it otherwise in the command line with "-rc <filename>" or it looks in
> ~/.bbkeysrc. Either way, if it can't open it, you'll hear about it in
> STDERR.
Ok. I was just concerned about other tools (bbconf) editing the wrong
file. If this is not an issue, I'm fine with the commandline switch.
> Also, bbkeysconf (the QT bbkeys-only configurator) has been dropped from my
> list of things I care about. It's dead. So is bbkeysConfigGtk. So is
> bbkeysConfigC, thank God. Going forward from the 0.8.4 release of bbkeys,
> bbkeys will have a very nifty perl script (correctly auto-detected of
> course), thanks to Damien Tougas, that does a MUCH better job of
> interactively configuring your bbkeys file. And the bbconf plugin for
> blackbox keybindings will also be kept up-to-date with these changes as well.
> And you're right--bbkeysconf.pl and bbconf will have to have some smarts
> added for "open another file" and "save as" for its settings.
Can't wait to see this happen. :)
> > > Oh, the bbkeys docs are full of stuff like "the other config file".
> > > As you might have noticed, changing the terminology to "keymap file" and
> > > "style file" could help get rid of this confusion.
> >
> > This, perhaps, is the reason why the newest release of bbkeys hasn't
> > hit the press yet. Feel free to modify the docs if you like, and
> > submit the changes. I'm sure every developer would like to see the
> > contribution of documentation. :)
> >
> > scott
>
> Actually, it's other reasons, but by ALL means, I'd love patches to the
> man-pages and documentation. Hell, just send me the new files and I'll pull
> them in, most probably.
I just did. :)
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