On 22-Feb-2002 Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> 
>> bbsnapshot has a loop kind of like this:
> ...
>> on exit the program should write out the list as well.
> 
> Or maybe a simple shell tool using xlsclients and xprop could do
> this? (But not runing all the time.)
> 

this could work too.

> 
> But I am not sure if xprop(1) can return all that; it does offer
> "_BLACKBOX_ATTRIBUTES" and "WM_STATE" and more.
> 

xprop has all of the information it seems.

> I haven't really used an desktop environment/manager that provides session
> management that keeps track of the data used by applications. Examples:
> a word processor that will reopen to exact documents, cursor at same spot
> and temporary settings (like font size); or a email client that when
> reopened will open to show same screen/messages as before and if composing
> cursor will be in the same spot (automatically); or a browser when
> reopened will show the webpage it was previously at (from cache) at the
> same spot.
> 
> Is there and software (with desktop manager) that does that?
> 

I believe KDE and GNOME can do this.  The key is every program must use common
code.  X has a Session Management library too.  But no one links to it and uses
its functions.

> Or is session management always about placing the "windows" at the same
> places with the same attributes?
> 

this is what people usually want having come from window maker or elsewhere.

> It is a little confusing, because it seems that X and xdm have another
> definition of "session management". I am curious: how does xdm and XDMCP
> sessions relate to this?
> 

they are referring to the X Session, ie this instance of X running.

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