On 09-Apr-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> Off and on, I'd heard rumors of undesirable policy changes happening at
> SourceForge (believe there was a short lived discussion on it here a while
> back).  Recently, the project owners of another piece of software I use
> (Dillo) decided to remove itself from SF due to these changes.  Some of
> the reasoning behind this decision can be found at the following link:
> 
> http://www.fsfeurope.org/news/article2001-10-20-01.en.html
> 
> Is SF the place for Blackbox?  Just wondering.
> 

sf is still the place that offers what we want.  Sure the hard times came and
VA had to make the hard choices.  I used to work there and saw all of this from
the inside.  The FSF and many others can be safe in their ideology.  I saw a
severance check.  ideology does not pay rent.

When this came up last time my statement was to find a place that gave me
everything sf does.  While the bug tracker has its issues, it works and works
well.  The site still has impressive uptimes considering the heavy use it gets.

Yeah, I wish the days of giving everything away were still here.  But in the
end companies need to make money or they go away.  As long as SF.net is a free
service and does not interfere with the projects on it I see no reason to leave.

As for SF not being "free" any more the FSF is right.  VA found it hard to sell
the software when you could also download it.  In fact there was a script that
when run on a Debian box would go from zero, fresh install to full SF.net style
service without much human interaction.  It would apt-get apache, a database,
sourceforge, everything.  Hard to compete against yourself.

But enough about that.  It hurts to talk about the old days and more
importantly we have all talked about the death of VA since before I left.  Old
news, boring news.

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