Hi Howard,
I'm sorry I sound vague. Most of what you and the other folks are talking
about sounds like a foriegn language to me. I don't know what a plist file
is. I didn't think I needed to know. I loved the idea of making my mac run
more intuitively. That's why I installed QS. So please have patience with me
and I'll try to explain as best I can.

Here's the situation:
I'm using QS version B54, and OS 10.5.4

When I initially loaded QS it worked fine. I was able to access the trigger
preference pane. There were pre-loaded triggers there and I was able to
create triggers.

I asked the forum how to set up a google search trigger. While trying to do
that the trigger pane stopped opening. When I tried to open it the wheel
just spun and it never opened.

I uninstalled QS.
I re-installed QS.

The invoke QS still works.
The command comma still opens the preference pane.
The catalog is there.
The plug-ins are still there.
The trigger pane never opens.

I'm not the most computer illiterate person out here, but I'm no
programmer.
Thanks again for your patience:)




On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Howard Melman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I really can't follow what you're trying.  Could you please describe what
> version of QS and OSX you're using, what specific triggers you're trying to
> create and what happens?
>
> Quicksilver stores all defined triggers in ~/Library/Application
> Support/Quicksilver/Triggers.plist
> It creates this file when first run, if it's not there it probably a
> permissions problems that it can create the folder. See the FAQ under QS
> won't install any plugins for details.
> http://groups.google.com/group/blacktree-quicksilver/web/faq
>
> There have been some reports of this file being corrupted on Leopard. If
> this file doesn't exist or is corrupt, QS's trigger preferences panel hangs
> and doesn't come up.  Deleting it and restarting QS solves that but loses
> any previously defined triggers.
>
> Triggers for dynamic actions (like Get New Mail or menu items using Show
> Menu Items....) can be created but will not exist when QS is restart. It's a
> current limitation and there's no workaround.  This is why I ask what
> specific trigger you're trying to create.
>
> Howard
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2008, at 2:18 PM, john l wrote:
>
>
>> New update:
>> A previously set up trigger for invoking Safari is still working.
>> Ahhhhhh!!!!!!
>> It isn't the lack of triggers that's bothering me. It's that I can't
>> create new ones.
>>
>> On Aug 30, 1:59 pm, john l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> I still can't find the show button.
>>> Everything is there but the triggers. Wheel just keeps turning.
>>> I uninstalled and re installed. Same problem.
>>>
>>> On Aug 30, 1:05 pm, "St.John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Sorry, it's "show"
>>>> in the catalogue if you click the info panel, then theres a show
>>>> button in the top right hand corner of the panel
>>>>
>>>
>>>  On Aug 30, 11:00 am, john l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>  where is this "reveal" button
>>>>> Now catalog isn't openning. same spinning wheel as triggers
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>  On Aug 9, 11:35 am, "St.John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>  sorry to whoever is moderating the comments
>>>>>> all of a sudden when i tried to add the app support folder for
>>>>>> quicksilver to the catalog, i saw the reveal button, and figured id
>>>>>> try
>>>>>> and it worked
>>>>>> and now all my app support folders are back
>>>>>> i guess you can delete my last few posts
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>  On Aug 9, 1:39 am, "St.John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>  I'm having the Exact same problem
>>>>>>> although id never risk uninstalling quicksilver :P
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>  On Aug 8, 5:56 pm, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>  I am having a problem with triggers that is even more fundamental than
>>>>>>>> described.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>  When I invoke the trigger option, I am not able to enter the trigger
>>>>>>>> set up and just get a spinning wheel (not the beachball).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>  I also do not have a Quicksilver folder in my application support
>>>>>>>> folder and so no triggers.lst.  I have tried creating this folder,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> still get the hanging issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>  I have tried uninstaling and reinstalling QS several times with no
>>>>>>>> luck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>  Any suggestions?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>  Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>  On Aug 8, 10:25 am, LazloHollyfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>  Hi Howard,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>  Thank you for the clarification.  QS is such a great program and tool
>>>>>>>>> for workflow, but I wish we could save triggers for menu items.  I
>>>>>>>>> mean, if we save a trigger and give it a scope to a particular
>>>>>>>>> application, I don't see why QS wouldn't be able to save that
>>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>  On the PC end of things, I am using a small applications called
>>>>>>>>> StrokeIt!  Which allows me to use gesturing to invoke menu commands
>>>>>>>>> and keyboard strokes.  I tried out xGestures for OSX, but that
>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>> seem to work for the CS3 suite (except for Photoshop).  QS +
>>>>>>>>> Abracadabra seemed like a perfect solution becuase of proxy
>>>>>>>>> objects,
>>>>>>>>> but now the triggers will not save.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>  I suppose I'll have to wait for a few development cycles for OSX to
>>>>>>>>> have a robust gesturing system in place. . .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>  Thanks again for your time and help!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>  Best,
>>>>>>>>> Laz
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>  On Aug 8, 7:07 am, Howard Melman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>  On Aug 8, 2008, at 1:52 AM, LazloHollyfeld wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>  I am having the same problems as others with the Triggers.plist file.
>>>>>>>>>>> I create a trigger for an action, and then when I close and
>>>>>>>>>>> relaunch
>>>>>>>>>>> QS, the trigger is missing.  I read on this board that I should
>>>>>>>>>>> quit
>>>>>>>>>>> QS, delete the Triggers.plist file from the Application Support
>>>>>>>>>>> directory, and did that.  Then I relaunched QS, it created a
>>>>>>>>>>> new .plist file but QS still will not save the triggers.  I use
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Command+i to get the info on the Triggers.plist file, and sure
>>>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>> at the bottom it says I can read and write to the file.  I
>>>>>>>>>>> checked the
>>>>>>>>>>> folders that contain the Triggers.plist file and those, too I
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> permission to read and write from.  Is there anything else I
>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>> try so that my triggers are saved?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>  Also, I am basically making triggers for proxies.  For example, I want
>>>>>>>>>>> to invoke the "Group" command from Adobe Illustrator's menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>  Will
>>>>>>>>>>> that save?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>  No it won't. Actions from application menus are  known as dynamic
>>>>>>>>>> actions because QS doesn't know them ahead of time and has to scan
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> application (Illustrator in this case) dynamically to find all the
>>>>>>>>>> commands to make actions from them. Unfortunately these can't be
>>>>>>>>>> saved.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>  You should be able to save a trigger for Illustrator (Show Menu Items)
>>>>>>>>>> and after running it typing Group would bring up the command
>>>>>>>>>> (though
>>>>>>>>>> I'm having problems using Show Menu Items now).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>  Howard
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>

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