Definitely the best place to document anything you learn is in the wiki on QSApp.com
We're going to try and make this THE place for everything Quicksilver, so the more we can get over there, the better! I also agree about getting the info out of us all ASAP. Maybe by setting up some pages and some kind of structure we'll all be able to get stuff out of our brains and on to the net - it's the starting off that's always the difficult part. The history is that: Alcor created Quicksilver. He said he couldn't really find time to keep it going, so he made it open source Alcor is no longer really involved. As much as we'd like him to be, and as much as I've emailed him I just think he's too busy. Alcor worked on the B5X. He also worked on a complete rewrite which only really got halfway. He's stopped with this 'new' quicksilver, but the source for it does exist here (in the trunk) http://code.google.com/p/blacktree-alchemy/source/browse/#svn/trunk Alcor hasn't been around here for quite a while. By all means try and get in touch with him. I've tried a couple of times over the past year or so and have never had a reply. Maybe he just doesn't like me so if you want to try, go for it! Your guess is as good as mine when it comes to contacting him: His gmail email, something from Blacktree.com. I don't know, but good luck! (P.S. I've added you to the repo for QS and the QS plugins on Github now) On 6 December 2010 09:32, Ankur Oberoi <[email protected]> wrote: > Great! Thanks for getting back to me promptly. I just added the repo to my > watched repos so you should see my username 'aoberoi' on github. > > It may take me some time to really get going with the source but if it > helps future devs then I'll try to document what I learn as I go. Do you > think the best place to document this now would be the wiki you have at > qsapp.com? > > The Docs on blacktree.com (using wayback machine) are extremely limited, > yikes. I think we should try to encourage any devs that are still engaged > with the project to contribute to documentation. They won't be involved > forever so the only way to get continued development is to lower the barrier > for new devs like myself. > > Just curious about the history a little here, Alcor was the sole developer > for blacktree? When did he/she decide to open source the app? Who has been > involved since I assume he/she is not anymore? Is the B5X development just > everything since Alcor hasn't been involved? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 5, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Patrick Robertson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hey Ankur, > > Good to see you're still about and would like to help some more! > > We're just in the process of moving the Quicksilver code over to a new > repository at: > <https://github.com/quicksilver/Quicksilver> > https://github.com/quicksilver/Quicksilver > > so as to make things easier for people to know what's where. We'll be using > this and the corresponding /Plugins repo for our QS work now. > > The QSApp.com site will have some dev documentation, basically what we can > take from Alcor's <http://blacktree.com>blacktree.com site (there may be a > bit there, but the site seems to be extremely iffy/not working at the > moment). > > Another good place to look (although it's more directed to creating > plugins, but does have some info on QS itself) is Rob's Development > Reference: > > <https://github.com/quicksilver/Plugins/tree/master/PluginDevelopmentReference> > https://github.com/quicksilver/Plugins/tree/master/PluginDevelopmentReference > > I'll add you to the two 'new' repos if you have a Github account (let me > know what it is). I'm also looking at setting up (or using the existing) > developer mailing list so we can start sharing our info. > > > Patrick > > On 5 December 2010 20:20, Ankur Oberoi < <[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> just joining this group now because i really miss quicksilver, and now >> that i have SOME obj-c development skills, i'd like to see if theres >> anything i can do. >> >> will <http://qsapp.com>qsapp.com have room for any developer >> documentation? is there >> developer documentation that exists? im not really great with git and >> it seems like theres a few diff projects (not just branches of >> projects) with the codebase for quicksilver. this is quite confusing. >> anyway i may be able to dedicate some time to this project so i'm >> wondering where i can help. >> >> On Nov 19, 6:54 am, Patrick Robertson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > From QS's point of view, it needs to make something like this: >> > >> > >> <http://qs0.blacktree.com/quicksilver/plugins/plugininfo.php?qsversion.> >> http://qs0.blacktree.com/quicksilver/plugins/plugininfo.php?qsversion... >> > >> > i.e. a .plist / xml file that QS can then parse to get the list of >> plugins. >> > >> > On 19 November 2010 20:26, <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > out if interest, are there any requirements of the plugin page from >> > > quicksilver’s point-of-view? >> > > does it need some generated xml representation or ? >> > >> > > On 19 Nov 2010, at 04:25, Patrick Robertson wrote: >> > >> > > > @Brett >> > >> > > > The plugin repository I made was just a quick/rough 'test', the idea >> is >> > > to make a much more full proof version with descriptions like you get >> in >> > > Quicksilver itself. >> > >> > > > We need to work on building this new repo, and adding information. >> > >> > > > If you want to start making e.g. a spreadsheet with a list of all >> the >> > > plugins, their version numbers, dates and descriptions that would be >> an >> > > awesome start! >> > >> > > > The 3rd party plugins have come from various sources - people >> emailing me >> > > stuff, and stuff that's already available as open source by Alcor. I >> guess >> > > tracking down and finding where everything's come from would be >> another good >> > > idea. >> > >> > > > ( >> > ><https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah_3obKwBvxsdGxxSVIyVm93OG5w..> >> https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah_3obKwBvxsdGxxSVIyVm93OG5w...) >> > >> > > > I've installed a wiki at: >> > >> > > > <http://qsapp.com/wikifor>http://qsapp.com/wikifor the exact idea >> of a place for everything to be >> > > stored. >> > > > If you want to start editing that as well then go for it! >> > >> > > > * The plugins repo wouldn't be a replacement to Howard's manual of >> > > course, only the descriptions would be included. >> > > > There would be plenty of links to the awesome manual though :) >> > >> > > > On 19 November 2010 14:25, Howard Melman <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > That's why I wrote this manual: >> > > > <http://mysite.verizon.net/hmelman/Quicksilver.pdf> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/hmelman/Quicksilver.pdf >> > > > Though it's current to B54 only. >> > >> > > > Howard >> > >> > > > On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:01 PM, Brett wrote: >> > >> > > > > Perhaps I'm missing something, but what would be great would be to >> > > > > have some sort of a more detailed description included in the >> plugins >> > > > > repository. Maybe I'm slow, but "Event Triggers" tells me very >> little >> > > > > about what the plugin actually does. >> > >> > > > > As part of this ambitious project, perhaps a wiki (or github, or >> right >> > > > > here in googgroups, etc) could be used to provide documentation >> for >> > > > > all plugins. Would be a huge effort of course, but at the moment, >> > > > > determining what each plugin does, and how to configure it or >> utilize >> > > > > it in QS is sometimes a bit mystifying. >> > >> > > > > I'd be willing to help with this effort - >> > > > > Patrick: for your QSApp.com repository of plugins, do you have >> info on >> > > > > the authors/URLs where each 3rd party plugin came from? >> > >> > > > > On Nov 14, 2:17 pm, strug <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >> Good timing:) The <http://blacktree.com>blacktree.com site has >> been suspended. Would be >> > > very >> > > > >> cool if we already have the possibility to tell QS to use your >> plugins >> > > > >> repository. >> > >> > > > >> For the time being it might be helpful to describe what is >> necessary >> > > > >> to use your plugins. E.g. <http://s.th>s.th. like: >> > >> > > > >> - download your plugin >> > > > >> - unzip it >> > > > >> - move the *.qsplugin file to /Users/<you>/Library/Application >> > > Support/ >> > > > >> Quicksilver/PlugIns >> > > > >> - restart QS >> > > > >> - select plugin >> > >> > > > >> Thanks for saving my night, leif >> > >
