DJ Lucas wrote these words on 05/16/06 20:16 CST:

> I was thinking about adding rman as a required 
> dependency for NAS, rather than wraping it with 'if you've installed 
> xorg 7', and then adding a note at the top of rman page that says it's 
> already installed if you've installed Xorg6 or XFree86.

I can barely understand what you're trying to say here, but if it
means that you only need to install the rman package if you
have Xorg7 installed, then you somehow need to explain this in
clear terms.

DJ, please take whatever time is necessary to determine a good
way to phrase this. I wish I could help, but your description
of what is required is so vague that I cannot offer any help
until I understand what is required.


> What do you's think?  This also warrants revisiting my original opinion 
> about libdrm, mesa, rman, and xterm being in other parts of the book.  I 
> think I might have been a little to quick to judge on those.

I feel all these packages scattered all throughout the book is
wrong. But you have already commented to my suggestions that
they are wrong that you feel confident they are where they
should be. We are in total disagreement here. But that's cool,
disagreement isn't bad, it just means there perhaps should
have been some discussion before the move was made.

I'm getting mixed messages, here, though. I'm not sure if
you're now doubting your original decisions, or if you're
good with your decisions, but they don't seem to fit.


> Moving these packages to the xorg7 section takes about ten seconds to 
> do, so it's very little work.

Then put them where they belong. :-)

>  I still say that the packages are already 
> in the correct sections by expected use,

Nobody else has commented, but I feel they are in the wrong
place, and now you are leaning towards this. What else do
you need?

> but the expected environment of 
> an installed X Window System includes them, and will generally make it 
> easier for editors that might have to deal with them in the book.  I 
> also think being linear, as Bruce had mentioned previously, will be 
> easier for users.  I'm undecided, so let me know what's best.

Put X-Windows packages in their own section. Can anyone really
use XTerm as a general utility? No.

It is confusing to someone who runs across XTerm in the
general utilities section. It makes no sense, and serves no
real purpose.

Sorry for being so candid, but I believe that is what you were
asking for. I just hope others contribute as well. If I'm wrong
and the entire community disagrees with me, then great. At least
we have a consensus. Right now, it seems only you and I have
contributed to the threads and we are in total disagreement.

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