On 11/08/2009 09:49 PM, Dan Nicholson wrote: > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 4:38 PM, DJ Lucas<[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 11/08/2009 01:38 PM, DJ Lucas wrote: >> >>> On 11/08/2009 01:10 PM, William Immendorf wrote: >>> >>> >>>> What happened to gccmakedep, imake, lndir, and xorg-cf-files? They >>>> work with LFS 6.5, and they are all required for NAS and other >>>> programs that expect imake and the other legacy XORG dev tools. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Just add them to your system. They are still there, just not part of >>> the official release (and thus, not part of the book as there is little >>> reason to keep them). As far as NAS is concerned, 4 years is ample time >>> to adapt. If it hasn't, then it is unmaintained and can go away IMO. >>> There are better proggies. Besides, I don't believe there is anything >>> left that 'needs' NAS as opposed to ARTS or ESD (or pulse). >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> >>> >> This would also include removal of rman. >> > You can feel free to include include any of the things that are needed > by BLFS for Xorg. They're not released as part of the "katamari" > because they're not seen as important to a modern windowing system, > but that doesn't mean they might not be important or needed for other > reasons. For instance, xinit isn't included since a modern system will > use a display manager, but every distro installs it. For that matter, > I don't think xdm or twm are part of the katamari, but they're still > under development. > > Oh yes, I'm aware of that. That is why the three you mentioned are included with a comment as they are required to test the base installation. However, AFAICT, the only thing in the book that warrants the old XFree86 build tools is NAS, who's introduction in BLFS says "Unless you know you need NAS, it is probably not needed at all."
Good time to prune unneeded packages. Personally, I'll still need/use them myself for the old VNC server packages, but that doesn't mean I should add another 4 pages to the book either--twm, xdm, and xclock will be separated later from the Katamari blessed packages, but will remain in the book because of the need to test the installation...actually to start from runlevels other than 5 at all. Speaking of, I proposed moving all the xorg parts back into the single chapter a couple of weeks ago, and didn't hear any complaints, so Mesa will be moving back to where it belongs. :-) I'm still open to serious arguments, but I'm pretty much set on dropping NAS and RMan. It'll be a few weeks yet anyway. As long as the installation instructions remain unchanged, maybe a good compromise is to comment them out in the wget files (if you need the legacy XFree86 development tools, uncomment the following lines). William, how does that sound to you? -- DJ Lucas -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content, and is believed to be clean. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
