Em 05-07-2013 20:06, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: > akhiezer wrote: > >> Just for the avoidance of doubt: I think (fwiw) that a rolling-'release' is >> overall not a good(-enough) idea per se, whether based on upstream 'stable' >> or >> upstream 'unstable'; > > Perhaps, but I think it is as good as possible with the available manpower.
In other words, I believe you agree that it would be good to have many more developers, enough to produce point releases. > >> And _everyone_ essentially has to do this, entailing a fairly massive and >> unnecessary reproduction of work across users of BLFS. Sure, there can be >> side-benefits such as folks getting more familiar with the 'realities' of the >> lower-levels and inner-workings of the dev/commit process &c. But is that >> level >> of involvement a _requirement_ for using BLFS: or should the person be able >> to >> go and get a proper formal release and be able to work principally from that >> and not have to follow trac/dev-lists/&c as much as with the >> rolling-'release' >> scenario. >> >> >> IOW, by shifting to rolling-'release', I'd argue that BLFS has overall >> increased the barriers to entry, for folks; and _as such_ is overall now less >> educational. > > It's interesting that I recently did a BLFS build for myself without > considering if the packages were the latest or not -- just what was in > the book. It helped that I already had scripts for about every package, > but a lot had to be updated in generally small ways to get to the BLFS > package version. I generally had to comment out the tests because I > didn't want to take the time and I figured the editor that last updated > the book had done that for me. > > The packages selected were those that I wanted to use. I didn't build > everything, but I did build xfce and kde. The order of packages was as > the dependencies dictated. > > I was actually suprised in how easily things went together. There were > very few problems. Getting from LFS -> Xorg -> WM is a pretty long > process, but BLFS seemed to work as intended. > > Right now I'm up to a little over 300 BLFS packages. > > -- Bruce > I added a comment above, but I replied this mostly to agree with Bruce, word by word. My newest build was (differently from previous) using the book as it is, versions as they were in the book (exception: openjdk and icedtea-web, where I used more recent ones). Very few and small problems. Things are very good, in the book. LFS -> Xorg -> WM too, but I use LXDE (with Openbox from the book). -- []s, Fernando -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
