On Tue, 2014-10-14 at 04:02 +0100, Ken Moffat wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 09:41:40PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 05:59:45PM +0200, Armin K. wrote:
> > > On 10/13/2014 05:05 AM, Ken Moffat wrote:
> > 
> > > > 2. When building texlive without a pre-existing tex installation,
> > > > the build has to be done twice: first time, a few parts (asy, xindy)
> > > > require various tex programs and cannot be built, also the install
> > > > is slightly different; second time (with the tex progs on $PATH) it
> > > > can all be built as we currently do.  Of course die-hard TeX purists
> > > > might shun asy and xindy.  For them, the smaller install may
> > > > suffice.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Are they built separately from main texlive build? If so, it should be
> > > possible with some hacking to let the build scripts use programs from
> > > the source/build dir that were just built. However, I am not sure nor
> > > aware what else do they require from a working texlive setup.
> > > 
> > 
> >  Looking back at my notes from February (when I eventually gave up
> > in disgust) it seems clear to me that xindy needs latex and
> > pdflatex.  For asy I found that it did in fact build, but the tests
> > fell apart.  For asy, one possibility is that it needs files shipped
> > in texmf [ at that time, I had not found the texmf source ].
> > 
> 
>  Possible, but wrong.  The test still falls apart:
> ./wce
> Testing errors...Terminated
> 
>  I can see that wce is a simple script, which runs ./asy with a
> file, putting error messages in errors.temp, which it then diffs
> against the expected result.  On this occasion, errors.temp contains
> only:
> Cannot execute kpsewhich
> 
>  That is to be expected, it has not yet been installed.  If it had
> been installed, the test suite would then run a lot more tests.
> 
>  I conclude that the asy tests need texlive to be installed.  It
> appears (for anybody who wants asy but not xindy - there is no
> accounting for taste ;) that the asy part can PROBABLY be built AND
> tested after installing "basic" texlive.  But I am not particularly
> concerned about that partial build.  Maybe it will appear in the
> options when I get to editing, maybe it won't - coping with all
> possible paths through this minefield is not a priority.
> 
> ĸen

Hello Ken,

Remember that you have no one else to blame on this venture than the
person looking back at you when standing in front of a mirror. :)

I am so glad that I did not decide to try the source installation
without the binary installer as you did.  For this it is much better to
wait whilst someone else has the headache of sorting out the glitches.

Regards,

Christopher.

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