On 11/03/2014 06:27 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Armin K. wrote: > >> Well, given that many binary distributions are switching to systemd to >> ease their life and due to many components now depending on >> systemd-logind (cough, GNOME, cough), some users seek shelter in smaller >> or source-based distro to avoid it. > > As an aside, does anyone actually *like* gnome? I've used it in Fedora > at school a bit and I think it's interface is terrible. >
Given that it's still alive, default on Fedora which still has a big amount of users (and probably the latest version of RHEL, although with extensions to make it look like classic GNOME) then I'd say yes. It's kinda like modern mobile interfaces. Not something I like, but meh - it won the mobile market so you can really say people like that kind of thing. > Just to bring up a terminal, you have to click on Applications and > scroll through a lot of terribly unoptimized and large icons to the > bottom of the window to just find the right icon. There are no widgets > in the frame for minimize, maximize, etc. It takes a right click and a > left click to do that. > Now that's a matter of how you get used to it. I had a link to their wiki page called "GNOME Shell Cheat Sheet" or something like that which described some of the easier ways to do something. To bring up a terminal, simply hit the Mod key (a key with the Windows Logo) which brings up the Overview (the same thing you bring up when you move your mouse to the top left corner), just start typing "Term..." and it brings up the terminal icon - then just hit enter! I find it faster to do that than to move mouse down to the taskbar in my everyday KDE desktop (it's not there by default) and click on it. As for the minimize and maximize, you are right and are not the first nor the last person to complain about the lack of them. They are just disabled on the default installation, maybe because interface is aiminig to be like on mobile OS-es which don't have that. A simple command or a click in gnome-tweak-tool enables them. You can maximize every window by double clicking on its tarball afaik. I don't use minimize that much, just switch between windows - which is what alt+tab is handy for and if I'm not wrong, the same reason why it's disabled on default install (kinda like "I'm doing it this way, you should do it too so we'll disable the other way by default" behaviour). But, in the past I stumbled upon way more annoying issue than both of the above. Apparently, someone thought it was a good idea to only have one instance of an app started. When you click again on a, lets say the terminal icon, you expect it to bring a new terminal, but instead it will just bring up your already open terminal window. To open a new app, you had to right click on an icon and select "New" or something like that. I believe it's fixed with an extension which is shipped in gnome-shell-extension but still makes me wanna throw stuff at whoever did that. Unrelated: I don't use GNOME because shell is kinda leaky ... It uses huge amount of memory after some time so I have to restart the shell from time to time - usually 2 times a day in order to drop the memory usage. I blame the javascript usage, given that they use Mozilla's JavaScript library and even Firefox leaks as hell when on a sites that use way too much javascript. But the positive thing is that the shell restart process can be done without restarting the entire session - Just alt+f2 and type 'r'. KDE is more memory intensive than GNOME is, but at least it stays more or less the same after 5 or more days of usage (I clear the caches from time to time though). I did disable akonadi (but I have to deal with coredump messages in .xsession-errors, which don't bother me that much) and baloo stuff to free up some memory which is a bit of a win for me. > Perhaps it can be customized, but I haven't tried. > > I'm glad we give a choice of window managers/environments in BLFS. > > -- Bruce > -- Note: My last name is not Krejzi.
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