On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:55:02PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote:
> 
> I guess I'm finished, at least until I'm motivated to see if sddm
> will build / work without systemd.
> 
Well, yes, it does.  I put it into /usr, set up a desktop file for
icewm in /usr/share/xsession, and copied the plasma.desktop file
from /opt/kf5.  I also set it up to run in runlevel 5, the same as
we do for kdm.  Fortunately, I did not make runlevel 5 the default
(so, 'telinit 5' to try it).

On my first attempt, I got an icewm desktop, and after I logged out
the reboot icon worked and a shutdown icon was visible.  But later I
lost those, I'm not at all clear what happened (I tried creating an
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf to my own
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/11-keyboard.conf to see if that would
replace the american flag and (presumably) american keyboard in sddm
[ my icewm session has the expected british map ] ).

I also tried the fallback option, and got what appeared to be xterm
on a black background - I was able to 'exit' back to sddm.

But what I cannot do is invoke plasma in /opt/kf5 - my .xsession is
loaded (I start xscreensaver from that, so I know it has loaded),
but then I just get a blank screen and need to use MagicSysRQ or
Alt-Fn and a root shell to kill sddm.

Summary - it looks a promising DM, and if you build qt5 (well, you
have to for this) it is lightweight.  But it looks as if putting kf5
(and perhaps qt5) in anywhere except /usr is NOT going to work with
sddm (I tried symlinking the kf5 progs from /usr/bin, no change),
and I do not yet understand why the reboot/shutdown options
disappeared, nor how to get the correct keyboard in sddm - for my
own password, a US keymap is as good as a british map, but for other
keyboard maps (e.g. qwertz, azerty) that will not be ok.

I did try putting fr_FR.UTF-8 in /etc/locale.conf (there is a
suggestion that is used because sddm assumes most people will be
using systemd) but I still had a qwerty keyboard not azerty.

I'll come back to this after I've built plasma and qt5 in /usr on my
test system.  Might be some weeks (or months) away.

ĸen
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