Ken Moffat wrote:
On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 12:48:10PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Ken Moffat wrote:
| The desktop clock in plasma requires that /etc/localtime is a
| symlink : if it is a file, the clock will be wrong. For LFS
| (sysvinit) such a change was rejected, but providing /usr is not a
| separate filesystem you can fix this:
|
|test -h /etc/localtime || mv -v /etc/localtime{,.orig}
| ln -sv /usr/share/zoneinfo/GB /etc/localtime
|
|obviously, change GB to whichever timezone you selected in LFS.
I've been doing that since July, and it worked for me. At the
moment, of course, my TZ matches UTC so I only need the fix during
British Summer Time.
Thanks. I generally don't look at the wiki pages, but what is there seems to be
good for the time when you wrote it. Now that Plasma is in the book, it needs
an
update.
Indeed changing /etc/localtime fixes the problem, but it really seems weird
that it
insists on a symlink.
It's more than just a symlink. I copied localtime to localtime.orig and
then did a symlink from localtime -> localtime.orig. I got a blank where
the digital time should be.
I suppose that it is documented somewhere in the c++ code (no idea
which package), but the "simple" symlink to /etc/localtime works,
no ?
"to" /etc/localtime? Like I said, I found it needed to be from /etc/localtime to
/usr/share/zoneinfo/your-tz
Also, I deleted all hidden files in my test user (except .bash*) and
restarted. I got a crash (segfault) from baloo, but otherwise the desktop
started. Logging out and restarting, the segfault did not recur.
I tried a second time as an initial user startup and got a blank screen so I
killed the session. After resetting localtime ->
/usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago and resetting the .files things seemed
to work OK.
Except for the digital clock, I guess ?
No, with the symlink above in /etc, the digital clock was OK.
I'll note that the initial startup time takes a while, but after that the
start time is OK.
You remember how I said that (a slightly older version of ) kf5
started reasonably quickly for me ? Last week, I was using that for
some photo editing and I noticed it was very slow to start on
several days.
This evening I have been updating firefox on my development machine
(for once, I do not see any vulnerability fixes mentioned) and
reviewing which systems there should be marked as 'unmaintained' :
1. plasma was unusable on the newest system - it seemed to hang (I'm
sure I had successfully used it there before, after managing to build
it in /usr, and certainly sddm showed plasma as the default when I
first logged in). Had to use a tty to reload sddm and get the
option of using icewm.
See the new page for plasma. There are some symlinks created at the bottom that I
found that I needed.
2. and on a kde4/kwin system from June I got a black screen when I
logged out.
Summary: kde is unpredictable.
I am afraid I agree. KDE4 went through the same process when first updating from
KDE3. It is a really complicated set of programs.
Rant: It also tends to be too stupid by half. I get popup images of
the windows on the taskbar if I need to type in the bottom of a
window just above that, e.g. the percentage field for the size of the
gimp image display when that window is at the bottom of the screen.
Some days, clicking in the left of a window titlebar usually makes it
go fullscreen, and occasionally clicking on a window gives small
versions of all available windows on the desktop until I click on the
small version of that window, other times it works OK. Personally, I
cannot understand why 'nix users think it is so great. For people
coming from windows, yes. But there seem to be BLFS users who like
it, so I guess we have to support it.
Sorry for ranting.
Yes, I understand that. Originally I really liked KDE3. When KDE4 was going
through the teething process, I tried Trinity. Finally I settled on xfce. I still
use it. We dropped Gnome when that got infected by systemd, but we now have kde4,
kde5, xfce, lxde, and lxqt. Only kde is a maximal desktop environment. Unless it is
completely unusable, I think we need to keep kde up to date.
I'll note that kde apps work fine in other DEs. I really like konsole and kdenlive
seems to be a fairly unique app that, AFAIK, is kf5 only. I also use okular for a
pdf viewer.
Going O/T, if anyone cares why I was using plasma last week:
When I use icewm, I tend to use keyboard shortcuts which I have
learned, in particular to go to the other desktops (Alt-Fn for
desktop n) but if I do that when the gimp is running, the gimp's
toolbox and layers dialogs seem to get changed to be on all desktops,
whereas if I use lxqt with openbox, the toolbox appears in front of
the current image window, and my screen isn't big enough for that - I
typically have 3 or 4 images open now in the first stage of
processing for my pesudo-HDR attempts (plus or minus 2 or 2.5 stops
from raw images). So, plasma let me try to forget about Alt-Fn and
still manage to do the work.
I've been using two 24-inch (60 cm) monitors for years. Sometimes HW is a better
solution.
-- Bruce
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