Ken Moffat wrote:
On Sun, Oct 02, 2016 at 02:29:00PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Ken Moffat wrote:
I'm still working out the deps for the new version of biber - I have
them all now (more than 100 _plus_ LWP), including those needed at
runtime and for testing, it's just a question of which (minor)
dependencies need which other minor dependencies. At a guess,
probably no more than 5 levels of dependencies. And I'm not
bothering to separate runtime deps.
And some of the (many) perl module developers are less reliable than
others - frequent new releases, sometimes severely changing the
dependencies.
[...]
Any alternative views ?
My understanding is that the issue at hand is due to biblatex-biber. I am
not in favor of a massive increase in the perl modules page to just
accommodate one relatively minor package.
I think a section in biblatex-biber discussing the issue and suggesting
using cpan for the biber required modules would be sufficient.
Another option is to just drop the biblatex-biber portion of the book. If a
user needs it, there is always install-tl-unx. Adding a huge tail of
dependencies is really only needed for biber developers.
Having beaten biber itself into shape, I'm reluctant to see that go
to waste by using the binary. Equally, I'm not keen on telling
people to use cpan. If people want to use cpan after looking at the
deps, that is fine (I used cpan myself when I first built
Mail::SpamAssassin).
I'll go back to mapping out the deps.
If it is dropped, it can be supplemented by a hint that does not need to be
updated every time a perl module is updated.
Again, -1.
I understand, but lets not pollute the perl modules section of the book
with 50 additional modules only needed for biber. Just create a section
for that in the biber page or at least in the Typesetting chapter.
My rationale is that when I do a fresh build, I generally do all of the
perl modules when I get to the first package that needs any perl module.
I suspect there are others that do that. OTOH, I rarely if ever build
biber. I have never found a need to use it. It would be hard to pick out
those perl modules only needed by biber and would make the perl modules
page far less usable.
-- Bruce
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