On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 12:11:59PM -0400, Jean-Marc Pigeon via blfs-dev wrote: > On 08/26/2019 09:23 AM, Pierre Labastie via blfs-dev wrote: > > Jean-Marc Pigeon via blfs-dev wrote: > > > Hello guys (Ken, DJ and Pierre), > > > > > > Thanks to have bring your "pint of brain juice". > > >
Just a few brief comments, neither of which diretly address your rtld problem. > > > > > > Ken is proposing the problem is RPM itself, in such case, as libreoffice > > > is a rather an heavy package, the build is, may be, going over a limit > > > of some kind. > > > I am building the BLFS book within a 30 Gig tmpfs partition > > > (to have speed), may be I am short about something. I have the feeling > > > that going over a threshold of some kind will make RPM to crash/give up > > > in more brutal way. However I'll try my best to prove Ken proposal. > > > For 30 Gig tmpfs you must have a very large amount of RAM. Is it ECC ? If not, in other circumstances I would be tempted to run memtest after problems. In this case, the way the google results seem to be clustered around rpm and (usually) openoffice rather than libreoffice suggest a flipped or failing memory bit is less liekly to be the cause. > > Hmm, you might not be successful in finding some answer from > > this list, since I think almost nobody is familiar enough with rpm > > for telling for sure yes or no... You are certainly the best expert > > of rpm around. And Ken might be the second. Not me, guv. I can usually read enough of a specfile to have soem idea of what is going on, and for building a new or updated package that gives me trouble, that is all I need. The details internal to rpm are generally not something I know about. Support might be a better list for rpm problems, but this one seems so uncommon (the google matches were all very old) that I doubt there will be much benefit in asking there. > Hmmm, keep in mind, we are working on the bleeding edge... > we have glibc-2.30 (a brand new one) and very last libreoffice, if something > is embedded in a forgotten addon (build with a previous > glibc), it could show up only now and may be not seen in > few days/weeks (we are the early birds here). True, but the 'code' is generally compiled. If a compiled binary was included, it would cause breakages when people built on different systems. According to https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=libreoffice fedora released 6.3.0.4 to fc31 17 days ago (tooltip of the 'stable' mark in 'status' says "The package has been released to the stable repository". > OK, very good. > you count via "wget" occurrence , I count via "ls -1", > my direct result was 80 and I subtracted the 3 coming from book > directives. same range (77 <-> 75, close enough in our context). > > IMHO, this value (77|75) is, and by far, way too high > (we can not say: all components are build from scratch). > Looking at my own build (no fonts, no java, omitting system clucene, system openldap) I have about 38 packages downloaded. Actually, the last one _is_ a font, opens___.ttf. Fonts don't get built from source, all the other items do (well, some of them might just install some python). > libreoffice compromise, not much result...but this one... > > https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/libreoffice-6-and-opengl-rendering-problem-4175652226/ > > ;----------------------- > 04-16-2019, 07:58 AM > [...] > Please note, I'm not saying Libreoffice is compromised. I'm saying that > possibly the whole ecosystem is (not everywhere, not every project) and that > Libreoffice seems like one more thing that has taken a turn away from > reliability. It's not about attributing malice or bad design, I'm sure that > (speaking very broadly) it's a little of both. Libreoffice might just be > using a library that has its direction/reliability compromised. That > wouldn't be their fault any more than it's mine for trying to use > Libreoffice. > ;----------------------------- > I too occasionally see libreoffice heading offscreen, but much less often with recent versions. ĸen -- Adopted by dwarfs, brought up by dwarfs. To dwarfs I'm a dwarf, sir. I can do the rite of k'zakra, I know the secrets of h'ragna, I can ha'lk my g'rakha correctly ... I am a dwarf Captain Carrot Ironfoundersson (in The Fifth Elephant) -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
