On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 07:05:29AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev wrote: > On 12/26/20 11:30 PM, Ken Moffat via blfs-dev wrote: > > Using polkit-0.118 and our > > polkit-0.118-fix_elogind_detection-1.patch, autoreconf fails with > > current versions of everything. > > [...] > > Perhaps, if there is no solution, I will bring forward itstool and > > Pygments, and grudgingly install gtk-doc (I already have all of > > docbook), but this overhead *really* pisses me off and I'm not in > > any hurry to go back to installing gtk-doc which in my experience > > makes builds take even longer when it is present. > > > > Or perhaps the days of a somewhat minimal LFS are gone, and > > gtkdocize and its deps needs to be in LFS ? That would certainly be > > a much bigger LFS. > > > > More generally, it does seem that BLFS is more often broken these > > days. > > > > Fortunately, I'm still in chroot on my latest build, so I can > > continue to use the system and my browsers - this is another example > > of why I now prefer to build (at least) Xorg and firefox in chroot > > (on sysv). > > I was expecting some problems with the new autoconf. It's really > complicated, but the upgrade was needed. > > I really don't understand your objection to gtk-doc. itstool is very quick > and you may not need Pygments although it is recommended. gtk-doc is > referenced by my count 141 times in blfs so it really doesn't hurt to build > it early. > > -- Bruce >
I've a vague memory of bad experiences with gtk-doc which makes me reluctant to install it. I also feel that package documentation is mostly 99% unuseful for me (with a few exceptions). More to the point, I still prefer a minimal system rather than "build every possible dependency" and the gradual increase in number of packages is annoying, as is the need to nowadays build so much before Xorg is usable. But it is the general breakage when using svn which really discourages me - in big distros (Arch, gentoo) many things (even on occasion security updates) get held outside the main area pending resolution of problems, We lack developers, skills, and build-integration to do that. I later recalled that versions of the polkit patch have at times dropped out, and then been reinstated or updated. I guessed that for some windowmanagers (maybe even for anyone who uses 'startx' rather than running a DM) it might not be necessary. Sure enough, without the patch I can boot the new system and use startx with fluxbox - auth.log showed my logns on c1 and later c2, and my use of seat0. and the Xorg log was in ~/.local/share so all looked good. Unfortunately, that doesn't buy me a lot - cairo has the same autoconf problem. Maybe I've calmed down a bit - I'll add gtk-doc and continue with this (and hopefully I'll switch gtkdocize out so I can identify where it is needed), but as a much lower priority. ĸen -- (The Balancing Monks) use small brass weights, none of them bigger than a fist. They work. Well, obviously they work. The world has not tipped up yet. -- The Thief Of Time -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
